i just want to end it put a gun to my head or something. i hate my life, hate how i look, hate my parents for letting me grow up with these ****ing defects on my face, something that could be avoided if they wanted and they neglected it and said there was nothing wrong with me when they knew it was, hate myself for going through everything i could and couldnt and even then it didnt worked... i'm full of anger and frustrated.

Something happened to me that messed up my face in my 30's (i'm 39 btw), plus i lost my hair, i dont know if genetic or not (ps said Treacher Collins syndrome) since then my life went downhill. in my 20's i was still able to pick up girls, get dates and some pu***, i think my face was fine and i had hair so i could pull it off. I looked at my pics when i was a kid and i saw a normal face, something must have effed up my face, i dont if it was the TC symptoms or because i was/am a mouth breather. but now women (30's early 40's its what i am aiming for) see me as a ****in monster.

In the don juan discussion forum (sosuave), they say im being paranoid, that's all in my head, that i need game and confidence. the hell it is. i know better, and those sluts do to.

this was in my 20's

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z41 ... 35_920.png
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z41 ... 03_920.jpg

and now: in my 30's with a difference in time of 5 years since i started surgeries (2010-2015) - just click the link to the question and click the pics

http://www.realself.com/question/pollyb ... fore-after


believe me guys i've been through all this for nothing, i have one major surgery coming on BSSO+Lefort1 (he wont do Lefort III)+genioplasty, but i dont know if its worth it. at least i'm trying to change something, improving, what the hell am i doing wrong.

Surgeries i had: Otoplasty, Septoplasty/Rhinoplasty, Canthoplasty for negative canthal angle (droopy the dog eyes) / Strabismus Surgery and various malar fat injections (didnt work as i still have sunken cheeks and zygomatic bones, one side of the face is also fuller than the other, because of effed up jaws maybe?). In the 2015 pic you can see crooked lip i dont know if because of braces or not.

Waiting for double jaw surgery, mandible surgery and chin advancement all in one surgery

here's what i am aiming for:

https://www.scienceopen.com/document_fi ... 60X-3-15-4

and here's my ceph ( orthodontic camouflage SPAM for overbite class II didnt do shit, so im stuck with a weak jaw and a chin that looks like an ass hole, malar hypoplasia and crooked face)

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z41 ... CEFALO.png


ps: about the bald head, this friend is 2 years younger than me and is dating, so its not the bald head, if its the skull shape then im doomed to celibacy (implants are too expensive for me)


https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 88139843a4

thanks in advance

so no looks dont matter threads?

why not say that i'm fuc**d?

can someone at least tell me wthats wrong? is it the fuckin face? the bald head?

is that much of a hassle?

from sluthate:

Even good male friends will elude him. Since he looks very bad other guys won't be able to enjoy him that much since his face will be tainting his behavior. So when he says things or acts in ways that objectively should be funny it will instead just come out as annoying and "too much". Yet no one will be able to fully admit that or realize that.

or

op has to make peace with several ideas

1 - dumpster diving and accepting that good looking women aint going to be interested BUT you can still have fun with some fugly bitches

2 - whores/pros

3 - some other weird option

Don't kill yourself bro.

I am sick of some people that moan about their looks, then you look at them and they are lazy obese slobs that want best pussy but are not willing to get into shape or build their confidence for it.

In your case though, I have to admit that I have sympathy for you. Being born with defects is an actual problem compared to the slobs I previously referred to.

I won't lie and pretend that I would be a ladies man if I had the same conditions as you. Evidently it must be tough. I don't think even I could of got pussy in my 20's in your situation so kudos to you. I am balding however and I only just turned 30 but I am doing better than I ever did with the ladies but it is really annoying being so powerless and have little control about it. Currently taking medication that doesn't seem to do much. I spent $1000 on a wig and then threw it away the next day so I had to kinda adapt and accept myself.

I can not give you any advice because I can only relate to being a lazy slob which you are clearly not but I would like to perhaps post on your thread and listen to what you have to say and hope to make you feel better.

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you can check the pics and tell me what i can change, have you seen the surgeries ive been through? i dont want your sympathy. just look at the 2010-2015 pics in realsef.com link, and tell me what i can do.

I don't know what you could do

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why not? is it that bad? what's the first thing that makes you say its not fixable? crooked face? eyes? ears? nose? what?

You're freaking out dude.. This is a mental thing far more than it is a physical thing. The physical plays its part, but no wear near as much as the mental and emotional does.

How many women have you approached in your life?

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i told you i picked up and dated girls in my 20's, hadnt difficulty. was easily a 5.5/6 in the looks department, if i took really care of myself. so if you guys can tell me whats wrong and i will appreciate it.

no hookers, no escorts, no dating 1's or 2s fugly bitches. a man never lowers his standards thats what i've learned

come on eddie spit it out what's wrong with me physically and can i fix it?

If I could suggest that --- yes, certainly your birth defects are challenging to work with and that can't be fun or very nice --- but the attitude you have is brutal, man.

I can certainly see why you'd be down on yourself and negative towards dating - but being neurotic and paranoid and insecure shows. Even if you found a girl who really liked you for who you were, or wasn't put off by any of your issues - your mindset about your insecurity and confidence won't be doing you any favors.

That's the best I've got. I'm no male model, but I also can't identify with your situation. I've got empathy for you, but I think you should look at changing what you can, psychologically, as well as cosmetically.

I would say it's more of a therapist thing than a PU forum thing

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ive done an otoplasty, rhino/septoplasty, negative canthal angle surgery, strabismus surgery. waiting for double jaw surgery/chin advancement and malar/cheek implants. care to tell me what i can do more cosmetically? can you tell me if those didnt and will not work?

at least be blunt

What? Did you even read what I wrote? I suggested changes to your mindset and psychology.

Picollo30, it's pretty obvious that you're the type of person that would find more flaws in yourself even if you had all the surgery in the world to make you look like Brad Pitt, or even better....ME

Let me be blunt to you, Charles is simply suggesting to concentrate on solving your fucked up defeatist mindset whilst doing whatever you can on your physical appeareance

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