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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:39 am 
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Met the HB9 yesterday in a city a bit of a trek away but it had been nearly two months. She texted me first a couple of times last week too. This was our fifth date.

We kissed quite a few (about six) times and she pressed her body right up against me etc. But when I held her hand she held mine extremely loosely - although she was wearing large rings. She seemed quite comfortable with it though.

After we walked past a shop and saw our reflection she said "We're such a funny looking couple - oh shit but we're not a couple. This is awkward."

She also wanted to see my taste with engagement rings when we were walking past shops. She said this explicitly.

I was also worried I was seeking her approval when I asked when she was talking about my new coat, if she approved, but we do take the piss out of each others taste sometimes.

She also said "I may come up to {my uni town}... - when I'm feeling nice!" As I had invited her in the past and she said it was £30 on the train when it's more like £15. She probably isn't a virgin though as she said she had a boyfriend who was a drug dealer for 3 months. So that probably wasn't her hesitation.

We laugh about the fact we don't give each other many compliments although she did say "I'm pleased you're back form uni" and she said "there you go, that's a compliment - and it felt genuine!"

I told her to text me when she was home safe and she did at 7:45pm although she said they'd booked the meal for 7pm and that's why she had to leave at 6:15pm. She did show me the texts though, although I didn't ask. It was just a normal but pleasant text ending with "have a good evening! x" I replied "Sorry fam - phone died! Got back not long ago. Had quite a fun day ;)"

She then replied an hour later (I took an hour)
"That's good! Just got back from the meal, was rather nice! Yeah same ;) But no was good fun!"

I didn't reply to that.

I asked when she was next free for one of our adventures, and she said Friday, and I asked what she was up for and she said agreed with my idea of a country walk although she added "somewhere local" perhaps implying she's still not ready to stay round.

If I want her to be my girlfriend how should I be playing it? My friends (male and female) both say I should be texting her at least everyday. I however thought perhaps I should be seeming somewhat distant so that she feels and realises like she has enough freedom etc and I'm not gonna be a clingy twat. As well as this showing her I have my own life etc.

How often would you suggest I text her? I found a video of our mutual friends from a while ago that was hilarious so was thinking of sending her that tomorrow.

Also, should and if so when should I ask her to be my girlfriend?


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Tough situation. If I'm understanding you, you are talking about a long distance thing? How far is the trip? Why was it a couple of months between seeing her?

I'll answer your last question first. NEVER. Don't ask her to be your girlfriend. Just have her be your girlfriend. If she wants to ask, let her, and it's OK at that point to validate her by saying, "No, I'm just a one night stand gone awry.. kidding, of course you're my girlfriend". Otherwise, just be confident once you've attained that kind of relationship.

Now, back to your issue: if she is long distance, it's going to be an uphill battle. I've done it myself a few times, and it's led to long term relationships, so the good news is that you're speaking to a veteran :)

This is the thing-- she has to be really into you to make it work. HB9s get a lot of attention, so it won't be about "I want a boyfriend", it will be "I really like this guy at uni". Re: your question of how often you should be in touch, you need to give her just enough space that she can chase you, and that there is still mystery. Odds are that your friends are thinking about the end game. After you two are an item. In the interim, you need to be there or else you can't build a relationship, on the other hand you two can't exchange texts too regularly until more trust is built because we chase only that which doesn't chase us.

However, I should point out, that a relationship requires repeated interactions. Too many, too fast, however, and you'll kill the thing.

On the surface, it sounds like she likes you enough. The engagement ring thing sounds like a shit test, though, rather than a IOI. She is putting you on the spot to see how you react. The reflection thing is interesting. Could be she got carried away because you make her feel comfortable, or it could be that there's some third factor. You also need to be weary that just because a girl likes kissing you doesn't mean she wants to be your GF. Guys are sometimes just fillers. Guys who are there for a little bit, and it's nothing serious because otherwise a girl loses her confidence. Unfortunately, a guy you see every couple of months would fit the bill.

Keep in mind that too much comfort early on doesn't help you. If she is too comfortable with you, she won't work at it, and consumer behavior modeling says nothing is worthwhile if you don't have to work for it.

My suggestion is to reassess the situation. Decide if she likes you a lot, or if she is using you for confidence. If it's the former, take it slow, understanding there's a risk that someone else swoops in. In the meantime, keep seeing other girls.

Good luck. Let me know what happens.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:14 pm 
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Tough situation. If I'm understanding you, you are talking about a long distance thing? How far is the trip? Why was it a couple of months between seeing her?

I'll answer your last question first. NEVER. Don't ask her to be your girlfriend. Just have her be your girlfriend. If she wants to ask, let her, and it's OK at that point to validate her by saying, "No, I'm just a one night stand gone awry.. kidding, of course you're my girlfriend". Otherwise, just be confident once you've attained that kind of relationship.

Now, back to your issue: if she is long distance, it's going to be an uphill battle. I've done it myself a few times, and it's led to long term relationships, so the good news is that you're speaking to a veteran :)

This is the thing-- she has to be really into you to make it work. HB9s get a lot of attention, so it won't be about "I want a boyfriend", it will be "I really like this guy at uni". Re: your question of how often you should be in touch, you need to give her just enough space that she can chase you, and that there is still mystery. Odds are that your friends are thinking about the end game. After you two are an item. In the interim, you need to be there or else you can't build a relationship, on the other hand you two can't exchange texts too regularly until more trust is built because we chase only that which doesn't chase us.

However, I should point out, that a relationship requires repeated interactions. Too many, too fast, however, and you'll kill the thing.

On the surface, it sounds like she likes you enough. The engagement ring thing sounds like a shit test, though, rather than a IOI. She is putting you on the spot to see how you react. The reflection thing is interesting. Could be she got carried away because you make her feel comfortable, or it could be that there's some third factor. You also need to be weary that just because a girl likes kissing you doesn't mean she wants to be your GF. Guys are sometimes just fillers. Guys who are there for a little bit, and it's nothing serious because otherwise a girl loses her confidence. Unfortunately, a guy you see every couple of months would fit the bill.

Keep in mind that too much comfort early on doesn't help you. If she is too comfortable with you, she won't work at it, and consumer behavior modeling says nothing is worthwhile if you don't have to work for it.

My suggestion is to reassess the situation. Decide if she likes you a lot, or if she is using you for confidence. If it's the former, take it slow, understanding there's a risk that someone else swoops in. In the meantime, keep seeing other girls.

Good luck. Let me know what happens.
Thanks for your reply man.

I texted her today telling her about this video of our mutual friends that they made in school which is hilarious and sent her a link on facebook, she replied saying

"Hahaa yess the plant video! That's halarious! A few of my friends have shown me that! :') So good. X"

I haven't actually replied to her yet. I was thinking about inviting her to my friends dinner party Thursday night, and then asking her to stay the night. What do you think of that? We were meant to be spending Friday together anyway, so thought it was a good plan. I'm back from uni, I only live 40 minutes away when I'm at uni so it's not too bad. If I am to invite her I thought I'd phone her rather than text - what do you think?

Her and I haven't actually slept together yet though.


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Tough situation. If I'm understanding you, you are talking about a long distance thing? How far is the trip? Why was it a couple of months between seeing her?

I'll answer your last question first. NEVER. Don't ask her to be your girlfriend. Just have her be your girlfriend. If she wants to ask, let her, and it's OK at that point to validate her by saying, "No, I'm just a one night stand gone awry.. kidding, of course you're my girlfriend". Otherwise, just be confident once you've attained that kind of relationship.

Now, back to your issue: if she is long distance, it's going to be an uphill battle. I've done it myself a few times, and it's led to long term relationships, so the good news is that you're speaking to a veteran :)

This is the thing-- she has to be really into you to make it work. HB9s get a lot of attention, so it won't be about "I want a boyfriend", it will be "I really like this guy at uni". Re: your question of how often you should be in touch, you need to give her just enough space that she can chase you, and that there is still mystery. Odds are that your friends are thinking about the end game. After you two are an item. In the interim, you need to be there or else you can't build a relationship, on the other hand you two can't exchange texts too regularly until more trust is built because we chase only that which doesn't chase us.

However, I should point out, that a relationship requires repeated interactions. Too many, too fast, however, and you'll kill the thing.

On the surface, it sounds like she likes you enough. The engagement ring thing sounds like a shit test, though, rather than a IOI. She is putting you on the spot to see how you react. The reflection thing is interesting. Could be she got carried away because you make her feel comfortable, or it could be that there's some third factor. You also need to be weary that just because a girl likes kissing you doesn't mean she wants to be your GF. Guys are sometimes just fillers. Guys who are there for a little bit, and it's nothing serious because otherwise a girl loses her confidence. Unfortunately, a guy you see every couple of months would fit the bill.

Keep in mind that too much comfort early on doesn't help you. If she is too comfortable with you, she won't work at it, and consumer behavior modeling says nothing is worthwhile if you don't have to work for it.

My suggestion is to reassess the situation. Decide if she likes you a lot, or if she is using you for confidence. If it's the former, take it slow, understanding there's a risk that someone else swoops in. In the meantime, keep seeing other girls.

Good luck. Let me know what happens.
Thanks for your reply man.

I texted her today telling her about this video of our mutual friends that they made in school which is hilarious and sent her a link on facebook, she replied saying

"Hahaa yess the plant video! That's halarious! A few of my friends have shown me that! :') So good. X"

I haven't actually replied to her yet. I was thinking about inviting her to my friends dinner party Thursday night, and then asking her to stay the night. What do you think of that? We were meant to be spending Friday together anyway, so thought it was a good plan. I'm back from uni, I only live 40 minutes away when I'm at uni so it's not too bad. If I am to invite her I thought I'd phone her rather than text - what do you think?

Her and I haven't actually slept together yet though.

ALWAYS ALWAYS.. invite through the PHONE if you have that option.

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This is the thing-- you asking her to stay the night is likely to set off "slut alarms" in her head. You need to provide her with plausible deniability about the two of you sleeping together. That said, a single girl probably won't like the idea of taking a late night train home by herself. Strategically, you want to put her only in situations where she's unlikely to feel uncomfortable. I would suggest you go to her, find a plausible excuse to need to go to her place (to see her coin collection?) if there's a choice. Get caught up in the moment and F close her at her place, instead.
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Tough situation. If I'm understanding you, you are talking about a long distance thing? How far is the trip? Why was it a couple of months between seeing her?

I'll answer your last question first. NEVER. Don't ask her to be your girlfriend. Just have her be your girlfriend. If she wants to ask, let her, and it's OK at that point to validate her by saying, "No, I'm just a one night stand gone awry.. kidding, of course you're my girlfriend". Otherwise, just be confident once you've attained that kind of relationship.

Now, back to your issue: if she is long distance, it's going to be an uphill battle. I've done it myself a few times, and it's led to long term relationships, so the good news is that you're speaking to a veteran :)

This is the thing-- she has to be really into you to make it work. HB9s get a lot of attention, so it won't be about "I want a boyfriend", it will be "I really like this guy at uni". Re: your question of how often you should be in touch, you need to give her just enough space that she can chase you, and that there is still mystery. Odds are that your friends are thinking about the end game. After you two are an item. In the interim, you need to be there or else you can't build a relationship, on the other hand you two can't exchange texts too regularly until more trust is built because we chase only that which doesn't chase us.

However, I should point out, that a relationship requires repeated interactions. Too many, too fast, however, and you'll kill the thing.

On the surface, it sounds like she likes you enough. The engagement ring thing sounds like a shit test, though, rather than a IOI. She is putting you on the spot to see how you react. The reflection thing is interesting. Could be she got carried away because you make her feel comfortable, or it could be that there's some third factor. You also need to be weary that just because a girl likes kissing you doesn't mean she wants to be your GF. Guys are sometimes just fillers. Guys who are there for a little bit, and it's nothing serious because otherwise a girl loses her confidence. Unfortunately, a guy you see every couple of months would fit the bill.

Keep in mind that too much comfort early on doesn't help you. If she is too comfortable with you, she won't work at it, and consumer behavior modeling says nothing is worthwhile if you don't have to work for it.

My suggestion is to reassess the situation. Decide if she likes you a lot, or if she is using you for confidence. If it's the former, take it slow, understanding there's a risk that someone else swoops in. In the meantime, keep seeing other girls.

Good luck. Let me know what happens.
Thanks for your reply man.

I texted her today telling her about this video of our mutual friends that they made in school which is hilarious and sent her a link on facebook, she replied saying

"Hahaa yess the plant video! That's halarious! A few of my friends have shown me that! :') So good. X"

I haven't actually replied to her yet. I was thinking about inviting her to my friends dinner party Thursday night, and then asking her to stay the night. What do you think of that? We were meant to be spending Friday together anyway, so thought it was a good plan. I'm back from uni, I only live 40 minutes away when I'm at uni so it's not too bad. If I am to invite her I thought I'd phone her rather than text - what do you think?

Her and I haven't actually slept together yet though.


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This is the thing-- you asking her to stay the night is likely to set off "slut alarms" in her head. You need to provide her with plausible deniability about the two of you sleeping together. That said, a single girl probably won't like the idea of taking a late night train home by herself. Strategically, you want to put her only in situations where she's unlikely to feel uncomfortable. I would suggest you go to her, find a plausible excuse to need to go to her place (to see her coin collection?) if there's a choice. Get caught up in the moment and F close her at her place, instead.
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Tough situation. If I'm understanding you, you are talking about a long distance thing? How far is the trip? Why was it a couple of months between seeing her?

I'll answer your last question first. NEVER. Don't ask her to be your girlfriend. Just have her be your girlfriend. If she wants to ask, let her, and it's OK at that point to validate her by saying, "No, I'm just a one night stand gone awry.. kidding, of course you're my girlfriend". Otherwise, just be confident once you've attained that kind of relationship.

Now, back to your issue: if she is long distance, it's going to be an uphill battle. I've done it myself a few times, and it's led to long term relationships, so the good news is that you're speaking to a veteran :)

This is the thing-- she has to be really into you to make it work. HB9s get a lot of attention, so it won't be about "I want a boyfriend", it will be "I really like this guy at uni". Re: your question of how often you should be in touch, you need to give her just enough space that she can chase you, and that there is still mystery. Odds are that your friends are thinking about the end game. After you two are an item. In the interim, you need to be there or else you can't build a relationship, on the other hand you two can't exchange texts too regularly until more trust is built because we chase only that which doesn't chase us.

However, I should point out, that a relationship requires repeated interactions. Too many, too fast, however, and you'll kill the thing.

On the surface, it sounds like she likes you enough. The engagement ring thing sounds like a shit test, though, rather than a IOI. She is putting you on the spot to see how you react. The reflection thing is interesting. Could be she got carried away because you make her feel comfortable, or it could be that there's some third factor. You also need to be weary that just because a girl likes kissing you doesn't mean she wants to be your GF. Guys are sometimes just fillers. Guys who are there for a little bit, and it's nothing serious because otherwise a girl loses her confidence. Unfortunately, a guy you see every couple of months would fit the bill.

Keep in mind that too much comfort early on doesn't help you. If she is too comfortable with you, she won't work at it, and consumer behavior modeling says nothing is worthwhile if you don't have to work for it.

My suggestion is to reassess the situation. Decide if she likes you a lot, or if she is using you for confidence. If it's the former, take it slow, understanding there's a risk that someone else swoops in. In the meantime, keep seeing other girls.

Good luck. Let me know what happens.
Thanks for your reply man.

I texted her today telling her about this video of our mutual friends that they made in school which is hilarious and sent her a link on facebook, she replied saying

"Hahaa yess the plant video! That's halarious! A few of my friends have shown me that! :') So good. X"

I haven't actually replied to her yet. I was thinking about inviting her to my friends dinner party Thursday night, and then asking her to stay the night. What do you think of that? We were meant to be spending Friday together anyway, so thought it was a good plan. I'm back from uni, I only live 40 minutes away when I'm at uni so it's not too bad. If I am to invite her I thought I'd phone her rather than text - what do you think?

Her and I haven't actually slept together yet though.
Okay man. She actually lives nearer the party than I do. I'm off to France on Friday so thought about saying to her "Fancy coming to my friends dinner party Thursday, staying at mine then doing something Friday during the day so we actually get some decent time together?"

She did give me a shit test when she said something about maintaining her innocence and I laughed, then I asked if she thought she was innocent, she said "well I'm not a slut. Are you innocent or a slut?" I replied "Born a slut".


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