I saw this HB8 texting by herself. I came up through the side, tapped her on the shoulder, and said:
I noticed you and thought about something to witty to say, but nothing came to mind. What can I tell you to get your attention?

She was completely unfazed by my line. She said, with a *hostile tone,* 'let me send a text, can you wait over there for few minutes before I talk to you.' I kept a straight face, but I was peeved; hell I was pissed. I thought, think of something to say; nothing came to mind mind so I just nodded my head and gently turned to my buddy to the left, so it didn't look like I was waiting on her (Yes, at this point my emotion state was that of a 8 years old girl). She finished texting and I noticed she gave me few glances from my peripheral vision. I wasn't going back now so it looked like I waited on her. She figured this out and she waves this guy over to sit next to her (yes, she was trying to make my jealous). There was another cute english girl - HBEngland8 - sitting across from her and I went to talk to her; we had chatted earlier. I got her phone number within 30 seconds and I wanted to make sure that the HB8 saw, then I got out of there.

I know I screwed up here at multiple places; I was acting emotionally. I thought about waiting before she was off the phone, but decided against it because other vultures were circling.

After she said wait over there for me, what could I have said to bring down her bitch shield?

thats a crash n burn in my book, learn from it. please do not use that line again.
do not tap her on the shoulder. i don't think she was trying to get you jealous maybe she feel uncomfortable with you being in there and she wanted to feel safe by calling her friend or having an attention from another guy so that way you could not approach her regardless if you weren't gonna go back again.

now trying to get another girls number in front of another girl to make yourself feel superior its pathetic.
you now are viewing them as objects.

see im not hating on you, but sit down and read what you wrote and view the interaction from my point of view.
i think she was clever by telling you to wait over there far from her. clearly is a sign that she is not interested on talking to you. specially for the line that you started with. you could of raised your voice and caught her attention that way, once she looked at you, you could of said something like "i just had something witty to tell you but fuck i just went blank, whats your name? her "I'm on the phone" you could said something like "hang up, your getting distracted from talking to me" keep it playful be confident about it. even if she rejected you that way
you displayed qualities of an alpha male rather than asking for her permission to talk to her.

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Space.volt

It is true that I crashed and burned. It's also true that I acted pathetically by being a slave to my emotions.

This gentleman, Volt, has also pointed out that tapping a girl on the shoulder is an ineffective strategy because it may make the girl uncomfortable, along with the line. In my experience, doing close to 100 approaches, I have found this not to be the case; tapping a girl gently on the shoulder is an effective way to get her attention, without raising her alarm.

To *all the people* on this website. The purpose of these posts is to exchange ideas neutrally, rather than tear down people. It is *not helpful* to draw attention to the failures with loaded language. We are here to help each other out.

The problem isn't her response the problem was your opening line.

If you have no idea what to say to her, how can you know how to lead her? When will you figure it out. ( women logic)

Your question is like someone who smokes cigarettes that asks what can he do about his burning throat. He could simply stop smoking the cigarettes; not seek a second hand cure to a problem.

Your response was perfect; you walked away not providing her with any attention(rewarding her) for her behavior.

You'll get less of these responses as you gain more experience in approaching.

Now if you're smooth enough; you could of reached over, took her phone out her hands put your number in it and walked away. She would of texted you in the " who do you think you are manner".

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im not trying to put you down.. just realize that there are things [blindspots] we all have and if you do not realize them not many people will tell you and you would have a hard time improving on something you are not aware yet.

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Nice try bro. This means you are willing to improve your game. I will advice strongly that you work on your opener.

How about an opinion opener? I realized girls respond strongly to opinion openers. Also you need to take 'false time constraint' very serious so she knows you are not going to stay there for too long.

Women want to be lead not the other way round.

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So this was in a club? What's funny is that may have worked during daygame. I've opened with "Random observational statement, I'm sorry, I just wanted an excuse to talk to you but nothing came to mind."

It's not a good idea to tap a girl on the shoulder, daygame or nightgame. It's bad, just imagine it being done to you. I always get stressed out when I'm tapped on the shoulder and I think most people do.

Anyway, just keep on trying. Pickup improves with time. Sorry I can't be much more helpful.

Also, don't feel bad about the N-close thing. You showed that you had value, I get it. I think everyone does.

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