I am not a PUA, and I am not phenomenal ladies man either. I'd just describe myself as an above average looking guy, with above average game. On average I can score with a new girl every week or so. For whatever reason, I have not had much luck at the bars lately. Any other venue such as a house party, college party, concert, rave, etc. I do not have much trouble. Girls even approach me sometimes.

What are some good pointers for the bars? sometimes I can get really rowdy and upbeat if the situation is right, but for the most part I just act cool and casual. At parties I go around talk to people, and act cool, confident, and friendly. When I notice a girl showing interest I start talking to her more exclusively. I flirt around get a little more physical. I have a firey/seductive attitude throughout the conservation, and do not really say anything fancy or elaborate. If the conservation and the vibe is good then take her home.

When I go to bars, it just seems more often than not girls are not open to me approaching them. A lot of the time its hard to get past this mental barrier they have. I cannot really get to the point where its just us having a seductive conservation and connection. Notable exceptions are when the club is really popping, and everyone is in a good mood, and dancing. At this point I just walk up and start dancing with them without much conservation, and then converse later. I do mind getting shut down, and I am not afraid to approach girls, but I feel like I could be doing something better. Suggestions?


Bit about me:
I am 22. I have my own place and own car. I have a good sense of humor so people tell me I remind them of Adam Sandler. I have good posture and dress well. I used to be a model and now I am boxer, so I am not fighting an up hill battle in the looks department.

Nice forum name. Most of the PUAs out there are average at best looking and average game. Don't discount yourself too much here. Your attitude about yourself carries over into the field. Girls can sense the guys that aren't as self confident just as sharks can sense blood in the water. First off get your head right. You're a solid guy, you are desirable, you are attractive to women, you are interesting to talk to, you have a lot to offer the opposite sex, you are unique and desirable! Don't just read this, you have to internalize it and believe it.

In the words of Jack Sparrow - "The problem is not the problem, your attitude about the problem is the problem, savvy?!?"
Try your best mentally to make the situation right, sets feed of your good vibes, and positive attitude. Just act like you just got the promotion, raise, job, won the lottery, best sex, etc. of your dreams. Then take that attitude and apply it your interactions. You have to essentially put yourself in a position mentally where nothing is going to ruin this awesome day you've had. People really feed off of it, and equally so they can pick up on weak or fake energy.
Some of this comes from keeping sets going. Talk to men, and women. Yes I said men too. Just be the fun social guy at the bar everyone knows and talks to. If women just see you walking up and approaching other women then going back to your table or stool then approach their group they are going to give you the cold shoulder. If you talk to everyone and having fun then its harder to be as bitchy to you. Gain social proof - it'll gain you some pre-selection, yes old terms but it works. Then people will be more willing to talk to the social guy in the bar.

Seriously used to be a model and now a boxer... if you through those out but play it humble with the ladies they'll be all over you. Don't discount yourself man. Just like being in that ring. You shall fear no evil or man cause though art the baddest motherf---er in the valley!

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Been around the world twice, Talked to everyone once...

Thanks man, I will keep your post in mind.

The more I think about, the times that I have success in the bar is not from picking up girls, but by genuinely having a good time.

When I go with my boys without the intention of getting a girl, then the girls just usually come on their own. When I go to pick up girls, I do not have as much luck.

You're probably right in the sense that it has something to do with my vibe and attitude.

The main difference is when I go to parties, concerts, raves, etc. I am generally more comfortable, and having more fun regardless if I am getting girls or not.

As for being meek and humble, I am come across that way on here, but not so much in real life. I guess I see being humble as a respect thing to the guys on here.