Well I say success but there is plenty of room for improvement, hotter girls etc..

I just really wanted to give my story as I feel the penny has dropped recently (for me at least) and I wanted to see if others were having the same problem as I did. If so, maybe they can relate and improve on their situation based on this.

So I came onto the scene about 4 years ago after reading the game. It was a real eye opener and made me understand so many things about woman I didnt know before. I started implementing things like routines and certain questions but didnt have a great deal of luck and so I took up private coaching with a very switched on PUA who taught me alot more and was able to explain alot about how things work with woman. One thing he taught me was to not answer a girl's questions and certain type of lifestyle questioning i should ask. We went out and did daygame and spoke over the phone. Unfortunately, I found myself getting worse. I was going on dates and girls were really disliking me.

I was being cocky/cheeky - being a bit outragous and although it suits my personality to be more naughty, than nice - my success rate was worse than before. I actually got very low about the situation. My conversion rate on dates was about 15-20% for girls who wanted to see me again. That wasnt good.

Things changed when I went to see a different female PUA to discuss things. I kind of made a prick out of myself on meeting her as I attempted to be funny (bad move) which of course she could see right through. She kind of pulled my technique and thoughts to pieces and told me to get rid of the cocky stuff and pointed out how it could become a sparring match with other girls. She was right, it did. I felt quite nervous speaking to her and didnt know how to act. Was I meant to be myself?.. or to act like I was trying to pull her?.. i didnt come across well at all.. abit like the girls I had been on dates with. She contacted me for a follow up a week later and caught me inbetween a business meeting.. I forgot about that feeling you get when talking to a fit girl and spoke to her a bit like i was talking to a friend I confided in and talked with my heart. Told her about the sort of girl I really wanted to meet and how i was feeling low about things and How I wanted the best for myself. I was speaking quite confidently, very matter of fact and certainly like I was not seeking her approval.. just informing her. She actually stopped me mid sentence and said that after meeting me before and now speaking to me.. she thought the way i was talking then made me much more attractive and sincere than how i cam across before. It got me thinking and I actually asked a female friend who knows everything for her opinion and actually agreed that she thinks I am more attractive when talking confidently/ascertively about important things than being a 'joker'.

Since then I have been on dates and its been a whole different ballgame. My approach has been a more serious look on my face and proper back and forth conversation for 80-90% of the time. I am talking like I am the most confident guy in the world without showing off. Just giving that impression that I am happy in myself and talking in a way that 'most importantly' is not seeking approval from anyone. the other 10% of the time, I will tease based on something they say to show that the fun elemant is there and maybe pull out my phone to show photos of something interesting.. perhaps tell one or two stories that are DHV.

Someone once told me that with PUA, it can be a case of one step back, and two steps forward. Its like learning to walk again and to learn that better walk you have to stumble around a bit first before it clicks into place.

By not putting on this over cocky attitude, girls are no longer sitting there assessing whether or not its all a big act to only pull me up when realising it is. By just purely acting confident, that seems to be accepted and universally liked and the bit of tease is fine. I put in little bits of what I learned over the years but its used as a very small part to add spice to the date. I am sure there will be people who disagree and have had success doing it other ways, but for me, this '80-90% normal chat with confidence' seems to be the key for impressing and getting girls in their late 20's and early 30's to want to see me again. Girls want to feel they are connecting to a guy with depth and the cocky humour obviously gets in the way of that. I am still learning and will no doubt be back with different questions - but im much happier than before.

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