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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:23 am 
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Hey all,

New to the forums and I had already introduced myself in the New User section of the site. Psyched to be here and get some advice and leads from individuals who have experience similar situations as the one I'm about to describe. Now this post may be sorta long but It's interesting.

So about four years ago I met a girl at work who is a dancer. I was the lead designer there and we'd work on projects together. We grown pretty close while working together in terms of communication but never took it to the next level as at the time I was engaged. I ended up not getting married to the girl I was with unrelated to this situation. I dated other women as well and was in a 2 year relationship that went south after finding out the girl cheated. Anyway back to this friend of mine... Throughout the years we would just either talk via Facebook messenger or text here and there. A couple of years after she left she came back to work and we connected again. Only this time I was leaving the job to travel on an extensive trip I had planned out for a while. Before I took on this trip we started hanging out a bit, biking together a lot as we both enjoyed doing this. We have a lot in common but I didn't want to get into anything because at the time I was about to leave on my trip. So a couple months later we broke contact as I was away for about 3 months.

I always thought about her and surprisingly she called me during my trip and left a message saying she missed me and wanted to connect. Wasn't sure where I was but wanted to say hello and tell me she lost her phone and is trying to get a new one (she was on dad's cell phone). I returned the call and got a VM leaving a message but still haven't heard back.

So upon returning home from my trip I get a call from her with a new number and she wanted to connect and see me, hangout and catch up. It's been like five months since we've seen each other maybe even six or seven perhaps lol. Anyway meeting up again was amazing, everything came together and we didn't have to try hard at all to understand each other. We hung out overnight in the city having a blast and walking around, eating everywhere and crossing bridges looking at the water and talking. This past Halloween I called her and invited her to a party which she attended, we had another great time, got drinks at the bar and was definitely using Kino this night holding hands through crowds, hand gently placed around her waste leading her across the street. I think she felt secure, she tightly curled her arm into mine while walking and I can feel her pressure which through me off.

Problem

After returning from my trip I currently don't have an apartment, neither does she and so this puts the logistics in a bad position as I cannot bring her back to where I'm crashing now (Sister's apartment temporarily). I don't mind getting a hotel spur of the moment but have been looking into other prospects like Airbnb to keep cost down. Anyway next week I'm going to an party which my partner and I will attend (Business). I plan to invite her and after it's done was thinking of leading her to a rental for drinks and to hangout more. I also wanted to catch a museum show with her on something I know she will love. So I kinda want to lay out the logistics before hand but just have to make sure she is available.

My question is, do you think I'm wasting my time/money?

I think anyone can get out of the friend zone, I think the reason we were friends at the time was because we worked very close to each other and didn't want conflict

I've had two serious relationships in my life, one for 6 years almost marrying and the second for 2 1/2 who cheated. I'd like to take my chances and see if I can make something out of this.

Not that this is an issue but I just turned 30 last month and this girl also just turned 41, our birthdays are a few weeks apart.


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She seems pretty into it.
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We hung out overnight in the city having a blast and walking around
Definitely get your logistics figured out next time so you don't spend all night walking around again. Get her to a private location and escalate. Ideally should have gone for the kiss by now. Time is running out because one more platonic "date" and she will probably run away for good if she's like most women.


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Thanks for the advice... I'll definitely have my logistics sorted out next time and my apartment around the end of next month haha. Next Friday I have a few events happening. Do you think it's a good call to see what her plans are before hand like next Monday? I was thinking of trying to book and AirBNB just because it's a bit more affordable to land an entire space. I also want to know if she's down to hangout as well. I also haven't spoken to her since last Friday (Halloween). I kinda wanted to hold out on communication for a bit but also don't know if gaming a 41 year old is appropriate lol, thoughts?


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We hung out overnight in the city having a blast and walking around
Definitely get your logistics figured out next time so you don't spend all night walking around again. Get her to a private location and escalate. Ideally should have gone for the kiss by now. Time is running out because one more platonic "date" and she will probably run away for good if she's like most women.


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Hey all,

New to the forums and I had already introduced myself in the New User section of the site. Psyched to be here and get some advice and leads from individuals who have experience similar situations as the one I'm about to describe. Now this post may be sorta long but It's interesting.

So about four years ago I met a girl at work who is a dancer. I was the lead designer there and we'd work on projects together. We grown pretty close while working together in terms of communication but never took it to the next level as at the time I was engaged. I ended up not getting married to the girl I was with unrelated to this situation. I dated other women as well and was in a 2 year relationship that went south after finding out the girl cheated. Anyway back to this friend of mine... Throughout the years we would just either talk via Facebook messenger or text here and there. A couple of years after she left she came back to work and we connected again. Only this time I was leaving the job to travel on an extensive trip I had planned out for a while. Before I took on this trip we started hanging out a bit, biking together a lot as we both enjoyed doing this. We have a lot in common but I didn't want to get into anything because at the time I was about to leave on my trip. So a couple months later we broke contact as I was away for about 3 months.

I always thought about her and surprisingly she called me during my trip and left a message saying she missed me and wanted to connect. Wasn't sure where I was but wanted to say hello and tell me she lost her phone and is trying to get a new one (she was on dad's cell phone). I returned the call and got a VM leaving a message but still haven't heard back.

So upon returning home from my trip I get a call from her with a new number and she wanted to connect and see me, hangout and catch up. It's been like five months since we've seen each other maybe even six or seven perhaps lol. Anyway meeting up again was amazing, everything came together and we didn't have to try hard at all to understand each other. We hung out overnight in the city having a blast and walking around, eating everywhere and crossing bridges looking at the water and talking. This past Halloween I called her and invited her to a party which she attended, we had another great time, got drinks at the bar and was definitely using Kino this night holding hands through crowds, hand gently placed around her waste leading her across the street. I think she felt secure, she tightly curled her arm into mine while walking and I can feel her pressure which through me off.

Problem

After returning from my trip I currently don't have an apartment, neither does she and so this puts the logistics in a bad position as I cannot bring her back to where I'm crashing now (Sister's apartment temporarily). I don't mind getting a hotel spur of the moment but have been looking into other prospects like Airbnb to keep cost down. Anyway next week I'm going to an party which my partner and I will attend (Business). I plan to invite her and after it's done was thinking of leading her to a rental for drinks and to hangout more. I also wanted to catch a museum show with her on something I know she will love. So I kinda want to lay out the logistics before hand but just have to make sure she is available.

My question is, do you think I'm wasting my time/money?

I think anyone can get out of the friend zone, I think the reason we were friends at the time was because we worked very close to each other and didn't want conflict

I've had two serious relationships in my life, one for 6 years almost marrying and the second for 2 1/2 who cheated. I'd like to take my chances and see if I can make something out of this.

Not that this is an issue but I just turned 30 last month and this girl also just turned 41, our birthdays are a few weeks apart.
I laughed when you said this GIRL is 41. lol..

Anyway man.. I can't help but wonder why on earth would a guy in his prime be interested in having a relationship with a woman that is past her prime? I'm going to need you to explain that to me. Not to mention it sounds like you're trying to get laid. It doesn't sound like you're trying to lay down the proper foundation to build a relationship upon. There is something conflicting there.

Not to mention, I don't think a 41 year old is in position to friend zone anyone.

And I also can't help but wonder if you want a family or not? The odds are she can no longer get pregnant; and maybe you may not want kids now, but don't you think you may eventually want some?

Are you sure you're thinking this through bro or are you just reacting to the chemical explosions happening in your body in the moment?

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To be frank with you, I had a dream a couple years back that I was having sex with her in my old apartment. During this time I was with my ex. Since then I've always wanted to have sex with her. In fact theres been several occasions when I thought about her while having sex. Idk maybe that's all I want, but I'd like to pursue what I want, make a movie on it as I inVision the possibility of it happening. Yes! I am in my prime and since I've been back from my trip I met a girl who I've slept with several times, and for the first time ever have been able to meet several women and socially engage myself without a problem now which used to be before.

I think after my breakup 7 months ago it put things into perspective for me in terms of not giving a F#uck about certain things. Children, sure one day but not now as I'm focused on a startup with my two business partners. However, this girl and I have great chemistry and many things in common. Sure the age gap is 11 years lol but I don't give a crap. When we've been hanging out lately I can just tell she wants it and I should of made it happen on Halloween when we were together but it was just bad planning on my part.

I'm gonna call her next week, and invite her to a couple of event Friday evening, get a solid dinner somewhere and drinks at the spot I'll book. I just have to make sure she's down to hangout before hand. I cut off contact for this week, and if she happens to contact me before Monday I'll just invite her then.

P.S. I also might be reacting to the chemical explosions happening in my body in the moment.

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Hey all,

New to the forums and I had already introduced myself in the New User section of the site. Psyched to be here and get some advice and leads from individuals who have experience similar situations as the one I'm about to describe. Now this post may be sorta long but It's interesting.

So about four years ago I met a girl at work who is a dancer. I was the lead designer there and we'd work on projects together. We grown pretty close while working together in terms of communication but never took it to the next level as at the time I was engaged. I ended up not getting married to the girl I was with unrelated to this situation. I dated other women as well and was in a 2 year relationship that went south after finding out the girl cheated. Anyway back to this friend of mine... Throughout the years we would just either talk via Facebook messenger or text here and there. A couple of years after she left she came back to work and we connected again. Only this time I was leaving the job to travel on an extensive trip I had planned out for a while. Before I took on this trip we started hanging out a bit, biking together a lot as we both enjoyed doing this. We have a lot in common but I didn't want to get into anything because at the time I was about to leave on my trip. So a couple months later we broke contact as I was away for about 3 months.

I always thought about her and surprisingly she called me during my trip and left a message saying she missed me and wanted to connect. Wasn't sure where I was but wanted to say hello and tell me she lost her phone and is trying to get a new one (she was on dad's cell phone). I returned the call and got a VM leaving a message but still haven't heard back.

So upon returning home from my trip I get a call from her with a new number and she wanted to connect and see me, hangout and catch up. It's been like five months since we've seen each other maybe even six or seven perhaps lol. Anyway meeting up again was amazing, everything came together and we didn't have to try hard at all to understand each other. We hung out overnight in the city having a blast and walking around, eating everywhere and crossing bridges looking at the water and talking. This past Halloween I called her and invited her to a party which she attended, we had another great time, got drinks at the bar and was definitely using Kino this night holding hands through crowds, hand gently placed around her waste leading her across the street. I think she felt secure, she tightly curled her arm into mine while walking and I can feel her pressure which through me off.

Problem

After returning from my trip I currently don't have an apartment, neither does she and so this puts the logistics in a bad position as I cannot bring her back to where I'm crashing now (Sister's apartment temporarily). I don't mind getting a hotel spur of the moment but have been looking into other prospects like Airbnb to keep cost down. Anyway next week I'm going to an party which my partner and I will attend (Business). I plan to invite her and after it's done was thinking of leading her to a rental for drinks and to hangout more. I also wanted to catch a museum show with her on something I know she will love. So I kinda want to lay out the logistics before hand but just have to make sure she is available.

My question is, do you think I'm wasting my time/money?

I think anyone can get out of the friend zone, I think the reason we were friends at the time was because we worked very close to each other and didn't want conflict

I've had two serious relationships in my life, one for 6 years almost marrying and the second for 2 1/2 who cheated. I'd like to take my chances and see if I can make something out of this.

Not that this is an issue but I just turned 30 last month and this girl also just turned 41, our birthdays are a few weeks apart.
I laughed when you said this GIRL is 41. lol..

Anyway man.. I can't help but wonder why on earth would a guy in his prime be interested in having a relationship with a woman that is past her prime? I'm going to need you to explain that to me. Not to mention it sounds like you're trying to get laid. It doesn't sound like you're trying to lay down the proper foundation to build a relationship upon. There is something conflicting there.

Not to mention, I don't think a 41 year old is in position to friend zone anyone.

And I also can't help but wonder if you want a family or not? The odds are she can no longer get pregnant; and maybe you may not want kids now, but don't you think you may eventually want some?

Are you sure you're thinking this through bro or are you just reacting to the chemical explosions happening in my body in the moment?


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To be frank with you, I had a dream a couple years back that I was having sex with her in my old apartment. During this time I was with my ex. Since then I've always wanted to have sex with her. In fact theres been several occasions when I thought about her while having sex. Idk maybe that's all I want, but I'd like to pursue what I want, make a movie on it as I inVision the possibility of it happening. Yes! I am in my prime and since I've been back from my trip I met a girl who I've slept with several times, and for the first time ever have been able to meet several women and socially engage myself without a problem now which used to be before.

I think after my breakup 7 months ago it put things into perspective for me in terms of not giving a F#uck about certain things. Children, sure one day but not now as I'm focused on a startup with my two business partners. However, this girl and I have great chemistry and many things in common. Sure the age gap is 11 years lol but I don't give a crap. When we've been hanging out lately I can just tell she wants it and I should of made it happen on Halloween when we were together but it was just bad planning on my part.

I'm gonna call her next week, and invite her to a couple of event Friday evening, get a solid dinner somewhere and drinks at the spot I'll book. I just have to make sure she's down to hangout before hand. I cut off contact for this week, and if she happens to contact me before Monday I'll just invite her then.

P.S. I also might be reacting to the chemical explosions happening in my body in the moment.

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Hey all,

New to the forums and I had already introduced myself in the New User section of the site. Psyched to be here and get some advice and leads from individuals who have experience similar situations as the one I'm about to describe. Now this post may be sorta long but It's interesting.

So about four years ago I met a girl at work who is a dancer. I was the lead designer there and we'd work on projects together. We grown pretty close while working together in terms of communication but never took it to the next level as at the time I was engaged. I ended up not getting married to the girl I was with unrelated to this situation. I dated other women as well and was in a 2 year relationship that went south after finding out the girl cheated. Anyway back to this friend of mine... Throughout the years we would just either talk via Facebook messenger or text here and there. A couple of years after she left she came back to work and we connected again. Only this time I was leaving the job to travel on an extensive trip I had planned out for a while. Before I took on this trip we started hanging out a bit, biking together a lot as we both enjoyed doing this. We have a lot in common but I didn't want to get into anything because at the time I was about to leave on my trip. So a couple months later we broke contact as I was away for about 3 months.

I always thought about her and surprisingly she called me during my trip and left a message saying she missed me and wanted to connect. Wasn't sure where I was but wanted to say hello and tell me she lost her phone and is trying to get a new one (she was on dad's cell phone). I returned the call and got a VM leaving a message but still haven't heard back.

So upon returning home from my trip I get a call from her with a new number and she wanted to connect and see me, hangout and catch up. It's been like five months since we've seen each other maybe even six or seven perhaps lol. Anyway meeting up again was amazing, everything came together and we didn't have to try hard at all to understand each other. We hung out overnight in the city having a blast and walking around, eating everywhere and crossing bridges looking at the water and talking. This past Halloween I called her and invited her to a party which she attended, we had another great time, got drinks at the bar and was definitely using Kino this night holding hands through crowds, hand gently placed around her waste leading her across the street. I think she felt secure, she tightly curled her arm into mine while walking and I can feel her pressure which through me off.

Problem

After returning from my trip I currently don't have an apartment, neither does she and so this puts the logistics in a bad position as I cannot bring her back to where I'm crashing now (Sister's apartment temporarily). I don't mind getting a hotel spur of the moment but have been looking into other prospects like Airbnb to keep cost down. Anyway next week I'm going to an party which my partner and I will attend (Business). I plan to invite her and after it's done was thinking of leading her to a rental for drinks and to hangout more. I also wanted to catch a museum show with her on something I know she will love. So I kinda want to lay out the logistics before hand but just have to make sure she is available.

My question is, do you think I'm wasting my time/money?

I think anyone can get out of the friend zone, I think the reason we were friends at the time was because we worked very close to each other and didn't want conflict

I've had two serious relationships in my life, one for 6 years almost marrying and the second for 2 1/2 who cheated. I'd like to take my chances and see if I can make something out of this.

Not that this is an issue but I just turned 30 last month and this girl also just turned 41, our birthdays are a few weeks apart.
I laughed when you said this GIRL is 41. lol..

Anyway man.. I can't help but wonder why on earth would a guy in his prime be interested in having a relationship with a woman that is past her prime? I'm going to need you to explain that to me. Not to mention it sounds like you're trying to get laid. It doesn't sound like you're trying to lay down the proper foundation to build a relationship upon. There is something conflicting there.

Not to mention, I don't think a 41 year old is in position to friend zone anyone.

And I also can't help but wonder if you want a family or not? The odds are she can no longer get pregnant; and maybe you may not want kids now, but don't you think you may eventually want some?

Are you sure you're thinking this through bro or are you just reacting to the chemical explosions happening in my body in the moment?
Right on bro. Sounds like you have this one figured out. I can't picture it going any other way than the way you would like for it to go.

Let us know how it goes.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:17 am 
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Why wait till next week when things can go down this weekend lol. Well looks like I got an invite this Friday to a party. Would you say it's to early from our last engagement which was Halloween to meet this Friday? Haven't spoken to her since so not sure of her plans.


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So I reached out to her via text for a meetup for tomorrow. Unfortunately she's headed to meet family out of state. She usually does this on weekends. Here was our short conversation via text. Keep in mind I'm not the best text messenger there is but great at in person and social settings....

I don't know what's dirtier Jersey or the NYC subway system, cast your vote?
Today at 12:29 p\PM

It's about two different systems nj has gas plants and toxic fumes and the subway system is a hazzard who knows where the dirt comes from,could it be traffic...too many people...ny is my vote...but I love it when it's sunny it looks cleaner
Today at 12:36 PM

I love New Yorks Grittiness,... nothing like it. Complementary to the pedgions and rats.
Today at 12:49 PM

Hahaha...enjoy
Today at 12:49 PM

Hahaha, anyway... plans tomorrow? Checking out a few things at a gallery early evening, extending invite I got to a party at night. Nibble, drinks, fun. Join?
Today at 12:55 PM

Awe can't it's Friday and heading to visit family for the weekend
Today at 1:06 PM

Oh right on, should be a solid time. How about next week, some things happening?
Today at 1:45 PM

Next can be a plan...ok
Today at 1:55 PM

So that's how it went and I haven't responded back and wasn't planning to till early next week. Or do you think I should just schedule something for next Friday with her now or just wait it out? I was also thinking in relationship to her saying 'next can be a plan...ok' was because last time we hung out my logistics wasn't so great so I think she may be expecting a solid plan for the opportunity to go somewhere after to spend private time together which will create room for further escalation. She also might be just blowing me off lol. Any thoughts or advice appreciated.


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If it were me I wouldn't reply until next week, tell her you had a crazy (or whatever kind of) weekend, ask how hers was, find out her schedule and meet up.


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If it were me I wouldn't reply until next week, tell her you had a crazy (or whatever kind of) weekend, ask how hers was, find out her schedule and meet up.
Good call. I actually ended up waiting anyway. Was thinking about hitting her back next week, but feel if she was down and out she would reach out to me which would be dope... Anyway, I'll probably shoot her a text mid next week a good time Friday.


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Hey all,

So fast update on my progress with the frienddddddzone situation lol. On my lunch before jumping into a meeting I texted her to see how her weekend went. We chatted for a bit but I really didn't want to send anymore than five text. Not sure why she didn't get back to me on my last invite but let me know what you all think...

Hey how goes!, how'd your weekend turn out?
Today at 12:22 PM
Really nice went to movies hair stuff... :wink:
Today at 12:33 PM

Nice! what'd you go see?
Today at 12:43 PM
John wick...so good
Today at 12:46 PM

Nice, that Dracula film looks pretty solid. We should get into that.
Today at 1:08 PM
What's your schedule this week look like...
Today at 1:11 PM
Friday I got an invite to a event at a cool spot in the city from 6 to 8. Come with, should be a good time?
Today at 1:11 PM

Not sure why she didn't get back but I don't think I'm going to get back to her if she doesn't respond to that. I mean i thought we were friends hahaaha, any thoughts greatly appreciated on this.


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Nice, that Dracula film looks pretty solid. We should get into that.
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What's your schedule this week look like...
Today at 1:11 PM
Friday I got an invite to a event at a cool spot in the city from 6 to 8. Come with, should be a good time?
Today at 1:11 PM
With no way of knowing, it appears all 3 of these texts are from you.

Note that the woman is not investing in you in any way at all, asking how your weekend was for example.

Move on to the next girls. With the next girls, have the logistics planned out in advance. A woman will get bored and move on fast if there is no escalation.


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Nice, that Dracula film looks pretty solid. We should get into that.
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What's your schedule this week look like...
Today at 1:11 PM
Friday I got an invite to a event at a cool spot in the city from 6 to 8. Come with, should be a good time?
Today at 1:11 PM
With no way of knowing, it appears all 3 of these texts are from you.

Note that the woman is not investing in you in any way at all, asking how your weekend was for example.

Move on to the next girls. With the next girls, have the logistics planned out in advance. A woman will get bored and move on fast if there is no escalation.
Yeah those last three were from me. Meant to put that into one sentence but hit the send instead... Sent the invite directly afterwards. To bad, she would of had a good time... Her lost but at the same time if she considers us being friends I'm not sure why she wouldn't respond to that. Anyway she's a little weird and I'm sure she'll get back at some point. However, I'll most likely be busy and won't invest my time. I feel like since the Kino i put on her the last time we hung out was great and then the logistics made things a disappointment on her end. Pretty cold but whatever.


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Yeah those last three were from me. Meant to put that into one sentence but hit the send instead... Sent the invite directly afterwards. To bad, she would of had a good time... Her lost but at the same time if she considers us being friends I'm not sure why she wouldn't respond to that. Anyway she's a little weird and I'm sure she'll get back at some point. However, I'll most likely be busy and won't invest my time. I feel like since the Kino i put on her the last time we hung out was great and then the logistics made things a disappointment on her end. Pretty cold but whatever.
You definitely have your head on straight. You'll be fine. Have fun man.


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Yeah those last three were from me. Meant to put that into one sentence but hit the send instead... Sent the invite directly afterwards. To bad, she would of had a good time... Her lost but at the same time if she considers us being friends I'm not sure why she wouldn't respond to that. Anyway she's a little weird and I'm sure she'll get back at some point. However, I'll most likely be busy and won't invest my time. I feel like since the Kino i put on her the last time we hung out was great and then the logistics made things a disappointment on her end. Pretty cold but whatever.
You definitely have your head on straight. You'll be fine. Have fun man.
Oh I know I'll be fine, thanks. However, I went in for the kill to see what was up. I hit her up again when I got in from work, here's how it went...

Me: Hey everything ok you, didn't break into a comma did you?
Today at 4:45 PM

Her: No... :( well kinda...hahaha...I would love to go...undecided...have a date with mom :wink: Mon-Thursday is easier... do you think I can get a bike on black Friday...cheap :oops:
Today at 5:16 PM

Me: I'm tied up during mon - thurs with projects. Well hey, i'd like for you to come. I think you'll enjoy yourself and have a good time. We can hangout afterwards... I put you down at the venue so let me know.
Today at 5:21 PM

Her: Ok...Will do
Today at 5:52 PM

Maybe I should have left it alone but I know her pretty well enough to say she can be weird and space out at times lol. At the same time... if she bails she bails. I don't think I came off as needy or anything. I just wanted to see what the deal was and if I could be expecting her or not as I have other people coming as well. But if she decides to come, I'm definitely going to try closing. Thoughts on this appreciated and how to handle further if any? Also if she does decide to come would it be good to just straight up change perspectives and not treat her as a friend at this point but someone I'm more attracted to to pick from where we left off. I'll have logistics in place once I get the ok if she's down lol.


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