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| DukeMister | PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:53 am | |
| Offline | | New to MPUA Forum | Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:37 am Posts: 7 | | I was at Ibiza for last 7 days all by myself and stayed in a San Antonio which is full of hot british girls who look so horny but still I couldn't get laid. Now I am back to london with the unopened pack of condoms. I am an average looking british indian guy with wheatish complexion.
Story1:
I went to a nightclub alone and saw a very hot girl dancing with 3 other girls . As soon as I saw her I pointed to her with my finger to let her know that I am here and I am watching her. Just in a second, she said something to her friend. After a few moments( probably 1min) , I went to her and start dancing trying to make an eye contact but for some reasons she was not even looking at me . I did not give up and kept dancing and at one point she was twerking me as well. But after 3mins or so , she just changed her position and left the club.
What were my mistakes there ?
Story2:
I was with a group of girls on my first day and there was a young girl who was getting cosy with me . I was not able to isolate her from the group . She left the nightclub early because her friend was already drunk and just about to pass out. But next day, it looked like she did not even know me .
So all started downhill for me ..
Story 3:
There was a girl who was also alone and came all by herself. We were chatting and talking on first day a lot. It looked like we had a strong connection because we finished a whole bottle of wine and almost half of champagne. after we were in the nightclub I went kino . So I held her hand and gave her a few hugging kind of dances. But she then tried to push me off a bit and for some reasons started to avoid me. After we were walking home , she told me she doesnt like when a guy becomes touchy and feely. So she said we should just stay friends and has a boy at home who she is into . We never saw each other afterwards.
What was my mistake here ?
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| Geeza1 | PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:27 am | |
| Offline | | New to MPUA Forum | Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:32 am Posts: 17 | | hey, its definitely not a race thing, but more to do with inner game. Get yourself a good wing, makes a world of difference in terms of helping to see were your going wrong, not to mention its always alot more fun
Are you heading back to next summer? Should get a group of guys together.
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| CESARE | PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:11 am | |
| Offline | | MPUA Forum Zealot | Joined: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:31 pm Posts: 315 | | Mistake(s) in story 1:
Did you make any eye contact with her before pointing at her? Did you get any IOI from her after you did so? If you didn't do any of this, you are trying to force IOIs in the wrong way. From what I understood, you just saw her on the dancefloor, pointed at her and saw her telling something to her friend. I think she said "that guy just pointed at me, what a creep! If he comes here please help me!" because it would be a natural reaction if you didn't make any contact before.
What you had to do there was:
1) making eye contact;
2) pointing at her and see her reaction;
3) if it was positive start dancing with her maintaining eye contact;
4) after like 30 secs introduce yourself and then go back to dancing;
5) kino escalation + isolation;
6) k-close;
7) f-close.
Richard LaRuina explains how to force IOIs really well, I suggest you to check that out.
Mistake in story 2:
You had to isolate her.
Mistake(s) in story 3:
She was a tricky one. You had to push/pull and do the "one step back two step forward" technique while kino.
It's definitely not a race thing. You just made some mistakes as we all do at the beginning. I think you could have had all of them if you didn't make the mistakes I showed you.
I agree with Geeza1: I assume from the mistakes you made that you are not an expert in pickup so i suggest next time get a wing and carefully analyze what you and him do wrong. Another thing I'd tell you is that if you want to go back there you should go with a SMALL group of guys (like 4 MAX) because if you get into a club with lets say 20 guys, you'll ALL look pretty desperate for a girl and that's really bad social proof.
When I go in a club, I usually try to go maybe with one or two guys and many girls (the more the better. Their number should be greater than yours) exactly to get social proof. The guys may be my wings, but they may also be just friends that have no idea about gaming and therefore I use them just as base in the club. This way, I'll have the "guys group" and the "girls group" as bases in the club. People will see me then socialise with many people and i'll have a greater social proof than most of the guys there. After that, it's an easy game.
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| Dragula | PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 12:55 pm | |
| Offline | | English Muffin |  | Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:40 pm Posts: 5689 | | There is no shame in not getting laid in these kind of places
I consider myself advanced with game and went to Malaguff, otherwise known as 'Shagamuff'
DIDN'T GET LAID.
I went to Crete/Malia a few years later, my game was better and got laid twice but the effort i put in would of got me laid in my home town 6/7 times.
Granted, i was in my late 20's so I felt really old and made my inner game a little weak but still, it was really hard. I could see the struggle in all the guy's faces, they would get drunk more and they would approach girls really drunk and sleazy, therefore the girls would have super high shields. Was really tough.
Apparently Ibiza everybody is on drugs which makes it worse. young British girls don't tend to favour Indian guys, limiting belief I know but I know you kinda agree with me but young 18-20 British girls can be materialistic. nightmares. (6 packs, fashion)
Places with high reputations of copious amounts of sex seems to be a victim of their own reputation and thus the opposite happens.
The guys that i saw get laid often were the good looking promoters and barmen. groups of soldiers, Or, groups of friends who were just really cool and loud and were the party. Going there with your wingman in pick up mode was really tough for us
Anyway, that is my experience of these type of places going with my Pakistani friend/wing. _________________ USER HAS BEEN BANNED FOR REPEATEDLY IGNORING MOD WARNINGS AND MULTIPLE RULE VIOLATIONS
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| Hunter_Foxe | PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:15 pm | |
| Offline | | PUA Forum Leader |  | Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:24 pm Posts: 2044 Location: Nottingham, UK | | Ibiza is a rip off. 40 euro for club entry, 15 euro cocktails with hardly any alcohol and 11 euro for a can of Red Bull.
Go out locally in the UK. Find wings on here if you don't have anyone to go out with.
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