(Cliff note version: I'm a party guy into party girls and I'm like Charlie from 2 and a half men becuz I have no trouble with party girls but I've never had a exclusive relationship. She is is serious, educated and is saving herself for marriage. I want to make her mine but so far she has seen right through me)

This girl is not the type of girl I am used to gaming at all. I have no problem at all w/ party type girls but this girl is a whole different kettle of fish and I am out of my element and have no idea what to do here.

Some backround:

Me: 25, barely graduated high school, spent more time partying and socializing instead of studying. A trend which has continued past high school. I work as a DJ just enough hrs to pay my bills. The rest of the time I'm basically at the gym or a club, or out w/ a girl. Not to brag but I have no trouble w/ the girls I meet at cubs or while I'm DJing. I am kind of like Charlie from 2 and a half men in that I know a lot of women and have a bunch of girls on the go at once and have been in a serious type relationship. Basically I live to have fun and have an abundance of women. PUA has really helped me w/ this.

Her: also 25. Earned 2 degrees by the age of 22. Works at a clinic and the hospital. Also volunteers at the hospital and a few other places. No Facebook or other social media. Has barely touched alcohol, never done weed or other drugs or smoked cigs. Doesn't wear make up and dressed conservative yet fashionable. Is a total virgin that has never done anything sexual and is waiting for marrage.

I met her becuz she is the cousin of people I know from a club. But she is not like them. I pretended to run into and that I didn't know who she was eve though I had seen her before. I got her to go have coffee becuz she doesn't drink alcohol so she turned down drinks. On our coffee date she told me up front that she is a virgin and doesn't do anything sexual even kissing w/ tongue becuz she is saving it for marrage and is "not the kind of girl who sleeps around". She didn't want to lead me on she said. Of course we all know how girls say one thing and do another but this one means it. For day 2 I invited her over to my place where we could cook dinner together becuz she likes to cook and then watch a movie we had talked about on the coffee date. Now after dinner we were sitting on the couch. I leaned in for a K close. But she pulled away and was all "what are u doing." To save the frame I just said she looked so cute I couldn't help myself (lame I kno) and she was like "Okay. Remember I said I won't open mouth kiss until I'm married." She wouldn't let me put my hand on her thigh and any other KINO was out of the question. I tried and failed to K close a second time and she got upset and was going to leave but I saved the frame without apologizing and we watched the rest of the movie. Afterwards she went home.

Now I have had girls say all the time that they don't sleep with guys on the first day and aren't like that but every single time this has actually been the opposite and we do end up farking. But this girl is totally different. She won't allow herself to be alone with me late and if I try to talk or text anything sexual she immediately puts the breaks on and changes the subject. Lately I have been growing tired of having ONS with party girls and generally the party lifestyle and this girl is defenitely girlfriend material expect for the no sexual stuff thing which I hope to break through. Her cousins and their friends have confirmed the virgin no sex stuff thing is not an act and she actually is that way. Without her going to clubs or having Facebook it has been impossible to game becuz I can't show preselection or social proof. When we were getting coffee there were some girls I knew from the club who were still in their club clothes from the night before but she just rolled her eyes when they were in the vicinity. She has no interest in the club scene and PUA stuff doesn't seem to be working on her. If I hint at other girls in my life she just says how she is looking for a relationship and doesn't date multiple people. Then she drops it. She also doesn't get jealous of party girls. Now I don't want to make her sound like a frigid bitch or anything becuz she is not she is quiet down to earth, warm, friendly and very sweet and I don't think she could be mean if she tried. I am getting tired of the party life and looking to settle down. Basically all I want in a girlfriend but I can't game her becuz of how she is and how I can't do any KINO or anything. Help! I really want to make this girl my girlfriend but so far she has seen right through me.

Hi Jordan, welcome to the forums.

A 25 yr old girl who won't even kiss you properly is an uphill battle from the start... And that's a big red flag. She keeps throwing the marriage line out there... That's a giant sign saying "RUN"...

Is this a religious thing? I don't know where you and she are located - but this literally sounds like so much work I wouldn't even bother.

You've never had a relationship before - and you're boasting about how you have no problem getting girls... YOU BARELY KNOW THIS ONE... Why is she special?

That's a trick question... cause she's NOT special. She's a prude who won't put out for you, at worst, and will make you work for months, at best...

What are you leaving out here? Feels like you've just got a oneitis crush here with a girl you're obsessed with... You suddenly want to dive into an exclusive relationship with an extremely unavailable girl who may be a complete asshole and who won't put out?

If you're half the player you've built yourself up to be in this post, this makes zero sense at all.

Hi CharlesFinley. Thank you for your reply.

The thing about this girl is that she girlfriend material. She is the kind of girl you can bring home to your mother and that you want to be the mother of your children. I am good w/ girls for flings and one night stands but they are always dumb party girls who are only interested in things like money, clothes and their looks. Girls who are girlfriend material like this one are a whole different ball game for me.

When I got into PUA 7 yrs ago I found my niche w/ party girls and wild ones who were just looking for fun. I never went out beyond that becuz that's all I wanted and it fit my life w/ me being a DJ and all that. But lately I am begining to get tired of girls like that and not having a meaningful relationship. I want to settle down and find a girl that I can make my girlfriend and have a future w/ including marriage. She is a girl like that. Also she is the only girl I have ever tried gaming before that has seen right through me and isn't having none of it. Don't get me wrong I have been rejected before but usually once I open a girl and things get going I end up getting laid. I want a girl like her - kind, down to earth, charitable, smart, not shallow - the opposite of girls I am used to gaming and laying. The fact that she is pretty but doesn't cake herself in make up or tight clothes is a bonus. I figure w/ time I could get past the whole no sexual stuff until marrage - she goes to church but dresses normal and isn't hardcore religous. I also go to church sometimes because it is important in my culture (Italian). So even though I never had one before I want a real relationship but w/ a quality girl and not a party girl, because I know those girls aren't cut out for relationships.

It's going to take a lot of patience..... i waited a year to take my girlfriends virginity, didn't even pressure her once. Quality girls will take a lot of time to seduce, but once you've done it, they will die for you and be extremely loyal.

When we first started, she also told me that she's waiting for marriage, but in the end , she was asking me to take her virginity.

Don't bring up wanting a relationship, don't pressure her at all. Keep other girls to take care of your sexual needs and focus on seducing her mind and building rapport, spend quality time with her but be detached of the outcome. When the time comes and she opens up, drop the other girls and become exclusive with her, it will be worth the patience in the end to have a quality wife.