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Skylar B
 Post subject: "omg you are so young"
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:41 pm 
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Hey men,i keep noticing a trending problem with interactions i have been having with women.they ask for my age and are surprised (im 18 btw).always replying with the same response "omg you are so young", how can you deal with this? most girls casually snuff out the conversation when i tell them my age.should i lie,fuck em and then tell em after or just say a witty response to the response.

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I lie about my age all the time. You can lie about your age if you want, it does work. You can also just say 18 and say a witty reply or ignore the ''you're so young comment'' act like it doesn't even phase you.
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Yes, just notch it up a few years. I did that all the time in my teens.

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Thank you both gentlemen,i shall try it out next time.sometimes i dont understand,its not about age,its all about lenght ;)

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Lying is unethical and you should never have to resort to it when it comes to pickup.

Check out this field report I wrote a long time ago when I was 18:
fr-bringing-the-culture-shock-vt24494.html
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I tell them I'm 18. They freak out and won't even tell me how old they are. All I know is that they're between the ages of 20-something and 30. I treat it like it's no big deal, treating the girls like they're weird for making any sort of issue about it. They're throwing shit-tests at me like crazy now, telling me that I'm just a baby and that I look like I'm in high school or some shit like that. I brush off the tests like dust and reframe the entire situation. "Alright, listen. I know you two wish you were young again, so I've got a little present for you. Just for tonight, you two are going to be 18 all over again!" (said with kino of course) At first they responded like old people, "Ohhhh my god it's been so long since I was that age," but with a persistent positive frame I eventually got them excited about the idea. Hey, I already had them hooked before we even got on the dance floor. This was easy peasy at this phase of the game. I even did some takeaways and opened other sets to preserve my value. Attraction was building. Whenever they would try to frame my young age as a bad thing, I'd reframe by negging them for being old, following it up with something like, "but how does it feel to be young again tonight? Woohooo!" This strengthened the frame that young = good.
If some girls really don't wanna "waste" their time with someone as young as you, don't waste their time. You don't want closed-minded people like that in your life anyway. Always be honest and upfront with who you are and you'll always end up with better results in the long run, especially for your own integrity and inner game.
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Lying is unethical and you should never have to resort to it when it comes to pickup.

Check out this field report I wrote a long time ago when I was 18:
fr-bringing-the-culture-shock-vt24494.html
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I tell them I'm 18. They freak out and won't even tell me how old they are. All I know is that they're between the ages of 20-something and 30. I treat it like it's no big deal, treating the girls like they're weird for making any sort of issue about it. They're throwing shit-tests at me like crazy now, telling me that I'm just a baby and that I look like I'm in high school or some shit like that. I brush off the tests like dust and reframe the entire situation. "Alright, listen. I know you two wish you were young again, so I've got a little present for you. Just for tonight, you two are going to be 18 all over again!" (said with kino of course) At first they responded like old people, "Ohhhh my god it's been so long since I was that age," but with a persistent positive frame I eventually got them excited about the idea. Hey, I already had them hooked before we even got on the dance floor. This was easy peasy at this phase of the game. I even did some takeaways and opened other sets to preserve my value. Attraction was building. Whenever they would try to frame my young age as a bad thing, I'd reframe by negging them for being old, following it up with something like, "but how does it feel to be young again tonight? Woohooo!" This strengthened the frame that young = good.
If some girls really don't wanna "waste" their time with someone as young as you, don't waste their time. You don't want closed-minded people like that in your life anyway. Always be honest and upfront with who you are and you'll always end up with better results in the long run, especially for your own integrity and inner game.
huh wow chief,amazing story and advice,Reframing the situation to your advantage? also for this part" This was easy peasy at this phase of the game. I even did some takeaways and opened other sets to preserve my value." i would always think thats the quickest way to lose a girl,stick to what you can talk to,that type of mindset.Thanks gentlemen

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I wouldn't lie about your age, man... What if you end up dating the girl?

Just be straight with them. If you're confident and act maturely you'll be fine.
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Fap to Emmanuel Kant if you want. It's a good way to fuck yourself over for literally no reason. This WILL get you shut down and cause so many more problems over something that is completely trivial and stupid.

Chief's entire post, oozes Mystery Method. Takeaways, reframes, negging, "preserve my value" "building attraction"? I'd bet good money Chief was lucky to bang 1-100 women he was approaching at this point.

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It's just flat out bad advice. Preserve perfect honesty? I don't know this Christ-like figure who is perfectly honest and expresses their every thought in every moment.

If you want to shoot for that, go for it. The Pope and Dahlia Lama aren't exactly known for how much they get laid. But you can use a hand to pat yourself on the back as you stroke your cock with the other, because you went home alone again, thanks to perfectly conveying data.

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Chief's entire post, oozes Mystery Method.
Yes, back in the day in 2008 (when I originally posted that FR) I was WAY into Mystery Method. And my results were spotty. I only started getting awesome consistent results when I became MORE honest and direct and more sexual. Being honest only gave me better results.

I would argue that I got pretty shitty results with Mystery Method because it's inherently dishonest in many ways.

Reframing is still boss, though, and it's not necessarily MM. RJ was the one to originally adopt that NLP stuff into pickup.
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Lols - or just avoid the question and turn it into a guessing game ?
if you guess my age ill get you a drink and if you dont you get me a drink :)

I still wouldnt lie out right about my age because some woman like younger guys and when i was 18/19 i was banging a 25 year old who was super hot and down with my age. But if i lied about my age and then say she added me on facebook or whatever she would have seen i lied and it would have fucked up :) !

Versalis the reason chiefs post probably wreaks of mystery method is because thats probably what he used when he was that age and still learning. You have to remember people use methods as ladders and probably the easiest one is mystery method. Show a bit of respect instead of just slating people dude.

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lying is unethical lol. and pua is what? an higher moral state and extremely ethical? >.<
truth is no one really cares about the age if you lie. does it make any difference if you are 18 or 38? hell no. it's all about your mind.
lie if you want. you aren't hurting anyone by doing it.
but imo I would use it to my advantage.
"omg you are so young" "omg you are so old lol not sure if you are up to my standards." or something like that.
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I was 18, ten years ago. I had never heard of PUA. I had been lying about my age since middle school. When I was 16, I slept with a girl who was 20(she thought we were the same age). That absolutely would not have happened if she had known I was 16(16 is age of consent in that state, so it was cool).

Nothing about me, or anything about the interaction was different. The one sole exception was she thought my birth year was 82, instead of 86.

Not lying to women, to me, is not doing things like saying I want her as a girlfriend, fuck her once, never contact her again.

Inviting her over to my place to "Watch a movie" is not lying in an important way, even though I have no intention of watching an entire movie, and may never ever start the thing.
Saying "Why don't you come over to my place, for a good hard fuck", would(I believe), have a much lower success rate. I'm not interested in perfect honesty.

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To counter act the fact that you are hitting on girls older than you, be on top of your game. Stay well groomed, dress nice, don't dress like an 18 year old. Maybe grow some well groomed stubble on your face so that you look older etc. Just pay attention to it.

Other than that, if a girl is giving you crap about being young, that's a good thing. If a girl gives me shit, I'm assuming it's cause she likes me and is attracted. I never tease a girl I'm not attracted to, so think of it like that. Just control the frame, give it back to her and don't let it phase you. If you act like a mature confident alpha it won't make a bit of difference.
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Just say "omg! Your old and dying, only joking (hug her) then say you smell like _____________"
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when I was young I would always pick older woman. I would prefer more mature ones rather than stupid teens. Age was never a problem except when I was below the age of consent. But even then I was the one approaching and controlling the situation. I've always used the age to my advantage. Most times I wouldn't even say it. I would just joke about it and since my behaviour was of an older guy they would assume I was young but not that young as I really was. They were always surprised when they found out my real age. But then there was nothing they could do since we already closed. And for some that was really a minor issue. And even for the ones who made a big deal about it they would forget the next minute since they were already hooked into me.

I never needed to lie. But if you do, what's the worst thing it can happen? I mean, it doesn't even blow your pick up odds in any way. And woman lie about age all the time. To a point that I have to ask for ID when I'm with young ones to avoid going below age of consent since some of them look a lot older than they actually are. Better safe than sorry.
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