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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:52 pm 
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I'll try to make this as succinct as possible.

Since mid-summer there has been a HB9.5 that comes into my favorite coffeeshop. Since I've only just started learning how to be a PUA in the last month, I had used my AFC tactics on her every time she came in (which was to make fleeting eye contact, give a weak smile and look away and of course, never make a move). Surprisingly, she would smile back and keep looking so I'm guessing she found me physically attractive. But about 2 months ago it got awkward because I never made a move (that and I started seeing a girl in the fall) and we stopped looking at each other completely.

Now I hadn't seen her for about a month during the holidays and had actually forgotten about her until she walked in yesterday. Since my confidence with women has risen dramitically my first instinct was to look her in the eyes confidently, smile and say hi. She responded in kind and seemed genuinely pleased with the interaction. All good, right? Then something horrible happened, I got gripped with fear and immediately reverted back to being a class A chump. I knew I should have went up to her while she was in line and asked her her name or something, but I couldn't. I couldn't even look at her again and she walked right by me on her way out and I glanced up just in time to see her smile but I didn't have time to return it or anything. I was so mad at myself that it threw me off for the rest of the day.

So, I need some help here. She may be a write off, but I've determined that for my own peace of mind, I am going to at least ask her her name.

Any one have any ideas on how I can erase my chump status and possibly even pick this girl up?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:38 am 
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How to pick her up is up to you, but what is most important is that you forget about all previous interactions with her and lose yourself in the moment.
It sounds like you got in to a negative thought spiral, as you have already had numerous interactions with the girl (therefore, something to lose) and chumped out.

We've all done it.

What I would suggest is to sarge, sarge, sarge. Do it so many times that the next time you see this girl, it will not be the 9.5 that you know, it will be another one of the hundred or so that you have talked to that week.
It's hard work, but it's the only way to do it.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:57 am 
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Great advice. As far as this situation goes, I would recommend feeding off the fact that she's giving you IOIs and let that fuel your confidence. Don't back down when you start feeling nervous, just zero in on the goal. By the same token, don't make it blatant that you're hitting on her. Girls that hot get hit on all the time. Direct your attention elsewhere. Talk about coffee, neg her on the silly outfit they make her wear. Find out what time she gets off and offer to meet her for a drink (not buy her a drink, meet her for one) later.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:03 pm 
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next time you see her you ought to pinch her bum cheeks and say 'whats up toots?'

okay maybe im being a jerk who would have you do that for my and probably all of the forums entertainment. dont do this.

how about next time you see her in a line queing for a coffee you stick your tongue out at her, quickly follow it up with a cheeky hello and tell her that you know her from somewhere.

she'll either say

1. yes, ive seen you around.
(which is what you want - this would open everything up.)

or

2. i dont think so?

if she says no.2 then its most probably a shit test rather than genuinity, however you must treat it as if it doesnt faze you. of course she may not recognise you but this is a 9.5 your dealing with and lets face it people - they know their shit.

say to her

gonzo: 'well you look like a girl i should know'
hb: smiles/frowns

gonzo 'can i get a female opinion on something?'
hb: 'yeah sure.' (contrary to what people say girls always agree to give an opinion. they are just little opinion monsters at the end of the day.)

gonzo: im shopping for my sister, its her birthday next week and i was just wondering whats better to get. at the moment its a toss up between a gift card or an actual present. a gift card means she gets to choose what she has - but a present means shes got something to open on the day.

hb: oh id get an actual present.

gonzo: cool - once you get your cofee y dont you come and sit with me. i feel as tho we've got a lot to talk about.

hb: sure thing - hold on.

from here on in you can stack openers, cold read or just act natural.
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this is kinda bland i know. but this is just me tossing an idea out there. tell me what you think - i can go into more details and alternations.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:25 am 
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Great advice guys. Funny, you make it sound so simple (and it is) but it's amazing how fear can send you reeling.

I haven't seen her again yet, but that's good advice for any kind of daytime situation.

I find it a lot easier to sarge (and I use that term loosely when talking about myself) in a nightclub where people are expecting to be approached. Things like coffeeshops and malls seem to require a whole different mindset.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:47 pm 
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this is a question to all: where are the best places to sarge during the day? what has the same precedent as a pub or a bar?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:56 pm 
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Hm, i like places where people move freely around, mostly since my game is fairly unstable still. Failing horribly in a set in a coffeeshop tends to be... well... the end of my sarges in that spot at least until the customers rotate again :P .

I like malls, shops, the street, etc. Malls are great. It provides coffeeplaces and other resting places, also gives you interaction by providing alot of people you can play off of and interesting shops you can weave and spin on. In addition the loads of people and the flow of it makes bombing a set no big deal, since it wont DLV you infront of your next set, due to them not seeing this happen.

Its just plain fun.


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coffee or mall, you can also try a gym... there are many places where you can sarge in the day ...

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