I sort of called a girl out the other week. She was leaving for a week and I offered to meet up before she left. She didn't bother replying to me until much later that night so I kept my reply short and withdrew my offer. She asked to meet up a few days before during the day to discuss "languages" alone together... I messaged her the next day about it and got no reply. Anyway, I went NC but I figured "Fuck this, why am I putting up with this?" and called her out basically saying I "feel weird about the situation and don't think I want to carry on with this."

After that she immediately replied freaking out asking if she did anything, saying sorry and all sorts. For three hours she bombarded me with messages trying to change my mind until we got flirty and she started talking about all the "bad things" she was going to do with me when she got back.

It's a week later(She messaged me three days ago last), she's back and she's not hitting me up. I dropped her a line telling her to head out with me but no reply. Should I move on and assume she's met someone else? Or should I assume she's interested but trying to play games and gain power here?

She sounds fucking batty.

Maybe you're her backup plan?

If you go NC on her she'll likely hit you up in a few days. If you're down for the games and drama, why not hang on? If you've got better shit to do or other women in the queue, waiting around for this one wouldn't be at the top of my to-do list, personally.

She's also married and i'm the only guy she's been with since him(Which is why I called her out in the first place to try distance myself -- moral conflict). So it's a bit messy.

I've got a few women but i've not nailed this girl yet and it's playing on my mind. Had the opportunity but got cock blocked by one of her needy friends before she left. I could be her backup but she, and everyone she knows(guys, girls, etc.) made a big deal out of me scoring her in the first place saying she's never kissed anyone and I should stop gaming her(Up until I got with her at least).

I think I have flaked on her though but nothing recent. She wanted to meet up one day the weekend we went out but I went out with friends(And told her I couldn't meet because of this) so seen her the night after with some of her mates. Before that she made all the moves, adding me to FB, getting my number after I k-closed and asked to meet up... then flaked when it came to "language lessons."

Stumped! Confusing as fuck.

Well, when you find out, I would love to know what a 'language lesson' is...

If it were me, I'd let the dust settle and see if she contacts you in the next couple days.

This is a weird one... You're not new to this shit, though - I'm sure you'll come out all right on the other side"

She's a batty one.

Keep well clear.

I have a similar problem with lots and lots of girls.

I don't know I it's the same for you, but rsd Alexander talks about having a huge attraction and low rapport, or being TOO high value. Girls get evasive and avoid you do to nervousness. Like meningitis called into the principal's office.

Look at the situation and see if that is the case. Every girl acts flaky and weird around me. Perhaps you are seeing some of this.

Charles, i'm guessing "Language lessons" basically means she wants to grind my dick down to a nub. Haha.

Mastermind, could you give a bit more info on what you're getting at? Also, what does RSD say about this issue and addressing it?

Yeah, I guess I am very high value. For some reason foreign women fall for me from a distance. I think i'm average in looks and average height but my value is definitely quite high. Only the other night I had this latina checking me out like crazy(But there was a lot of questions around her and her group of friends) in a club and as the night ended she was walking away with one of her friends... I checked her out and seen she fully had her head turned around looking in my general direction as she walked in the opposite direction. I can't explain why but I definitely have my social value down to a T.

In my various groups of friends -- especially latin groups -- everyone is constantly trying to impress me, get me out and include me in everything. Actually, the first night I met this girl there were two others vying for my attention(One that's engaged and one what was single). One of the girls was basically throwing herself at me and had others trying to get me to close her(Lots of pressure) but I ended up scoring this girl instead.

If I am too high value and she has a lot of attraction(Which I think is especially true, at least from before she left) how do you go about fixing that? More rapport? How can I build up more rapport if she won't come out?

I'm of mind to think what's going to happen is she'll message me tomorrow(Friday) and say she's having drinks with friends and wants me to come and meet her. My only problem with that is I don't want it to turn into a case where she feels she can call and text me whenever she wants and i'll follow however in person i'm very dominant and persuasive and not afraid to lay down my position on matters plus I very much control her sexually and physically but I use this more as a means to tease and have fun as opposed to manipulating her.

I'm thinking of three options:

1. If she messages to head out tomorrow I ignore her and message her two days from then as a means to enforce that i'm not going to allow her to have me as her handbag she brings around when she feels.

2. If she asks to head out tomorrow to just go out with her and fuck her at the end of the night(It's pretty much a given i'll fuck her next time i'm out with her).

3. Wait a few days and just lay it out in a simple message. "Sup, is everything alright? You've not talked to me in a while." <-- The only reason i'd do this is because I like to be upfront and get to the bottom of things rather than beating around a bush.

what would be your long term goal with this woman?

if you're not bothered about seeing her again and you're guaranteed a fuck next time you see her. take the possible DLV and get some strange. maybe even a slightly lower value would help your play here.

Well, sure sounds like we DO have the same problem, and if I knew the solution it wouldn't still be a problem

I posted here about it before I really understood what was happening. Do girls hover around you staring or popping their eyes, all tense with their shoulders up around their ears only to scatter when it even looks like you are about to talk to them? Do you open girls that have seen you in the environment only to have them stand there bug eyed with nothing to say? Etc...

Watch some RSDAlexander videos. There is one in particular called something like "what advanced guys know, but you don't." Basically the answer is to do something so you look like a stupid idiot. In my earlier post I joked about how I wanted to dump a beer down my front so girls could laugh at me. Then I saw that RSDAlexander video and he tried dumping the beer on the girl!

So, if this is the first that you noticed it, it may be part of a larger trend. Look back at girls you thought didn't like you, or girls who you were SURE liked you, then the next that you see them they seem shy or uncomfortable, quite or avoidant.

No, generally women talk to me and show enough interest with a few who go over the top with their interest. Latinas especially are very forward and talkative, they just fall for me and vie for my attention usually. Sometimes on a second encounter they can be a bit shy but if I haven't closed by the third meeting they generally tend to move on.

Anyway, i've already scored this chick... Either she's having second thoughts because of her husband back home or she met someone else in the three days or she's playing games to ramp up my interest(Which, if this is the case, is pretty much working. :/).

Need to check this out. I get massive ioi's all the time. I mean girls literally come up to me and tell me how attractive I am but get very weird when I try and push it. I push it comfortably, mind you. But it's like once they realize I have any kind of sexual interest at all, the lose their cool. I get a vibe that they think I am like playing and they can't handle it.

A girl literally stared a hole through me two days ago at work so I approached, chatted quick and got her #. Tried to meetup the next night and she just flaked hard. She did the same the next night but continuously attempted to open me via text through all of it.

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I do a lot of Starbucks game. And street approaches, the real problem is when girls see me interacting in a larger social environment. I AM the environment. Sounds funner than it is.

You sound like a fucking jerk and they are laughing AT you. You seem full of yourself and go too quickly into sexual territory which makes you come across as a fucking freak and btw married women are off limits you desperate, little cunt.

From every post I have read of yours, it is quite obvious your wife cheated on you and all your friends ran train on your sister.....

...at the same party. How is this guy not banned yet?

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Update:

Played it cool, didn't say anything to her then ended up being messaged by her. I ignored and then a day later she bombarded me with messages asking me to go see her the other night. I backed out and said I was busy. Today she asked me to go out with her again but i've had to say no because I am busy today and most of tonight.

Two flakes one after the other isn't a good thing on my part. :/