The art of seduction by Robert Greene.



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:32 am 
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Hi i am reading the art of seduction by Robert Greene its a very interesting book but can you tell me how can i use the information in that book in the field.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:50 am 
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IMO much of the content of that book is more serious than PUA-material in general. It is stuff for long term seductions, where some of them require real sacrifices and huge amounts of effort. It's nothing you can do in a club, especially not if you want to live according to PUA-mentality á la RSD, where the only thing in life that counts is dipping your Willie in as many things possible, and doing so solely by going to clubs (the worst place to meet women), avoiding all natural venues and normal social interactions.

Here is my take on some of the tips that can be used in clubs too:

1. Choose the right victim - girls you have chemistry with. You can learn to recognise such girls by practicing "pacing and leading", and go for girls which requires as little effort as possible to pace.

2. Approach indirectly, which is definitely the best way to do it. This is the most socially acceptable way to make contact with new people, the least weird way, and does not scream out "I'm trying to pick you up" which is what a direct approach (and almost every PUA out there) does.

3. Appear to be an object of desire - create triangles. Do you see the connection with Mystery Method? It's called preselection there. In more "normal" terms it's called "talk to everybody", and do not only focus on your target. However, this only applies early on. You need to isolate your target at some occasion, so you can focus on each other and get to know each other. But if you run out of things to say you need to "break rapport" (which is not really about breaking rapport, but rather about doing something different and fun) and join the others again, which will throw you back into making triangles. But make sure to do so without hurting anyones feelings.

4. Create a need—stir anxiety and discontent. A perfectly satisfied person cannot be seduced. This means that girls who have just met their boyfriend and who are in love are impossible targets. Girls who are happy in their LTRs are just as hard to seduce. The easiest targets, even easier than girls who are single, are girls who have unhappy relationships. You need to find what a girl wants (by asking the right questions), and make sure to be the guy who can offer that to her - but do so without trying to please her. Just be that guy.

5. Master the art of insinuation. This is what I find to be the most funny and interesting aspect of game. I can't give you any concrete tips here. You need to experiment and find out your own way. But I can tell you that I was able to make a girl blush without saying a word (well, we were talking, but just normal stuff), and not doing anything special. I just felt attraction towards her, and that was enough to insinuate things in her mind. It was probably something I communicated through my eyes.

6. Enter their spirit. This is simply pacing and leading.

7. Create temptation. This is a duplicate on "Create a need" and "Mater the art of insinuation".

8. Keep them in suspense—what comes next? This is push & pull, and maybe "break rapport" (a term I hate, since it is completely wrong).

9. Use the demonic power of words to sow confusion. This is about flattering and giving compliments, which is one way to "pace". Nothing strange.

10. Pay attention to detail. This is a mix. Clothes, grooming and body language from your part. But paying attention to what the girl says is also important (but not what this chapter is about I think), since that shows her that you care and listen to what she says.

11. Isolate the victim. Yep, this is what we all need to do sooner or later. This is even part of Mystery's game. :)

12. Effect a regression. In other words, make people feel young again (if they are older). But since older women is usually not a PUAs target, this is not worth memorising. It is easy to do though. All you need is to treat older women as if you are exploring the world all over again, as if you both are teens again.

13. Stir up the transgressive and taboo. Dirty talking. Be bold. :)

14. Mix pleasure with pain. Push & pull again. Duplicate.

15. Give them space to fall—the pursuer is pursued. In MM terms this is "Cat string theory". In normal words this is about "not being needy", not trying too hard, or as RSD would put it "have an attitude of abundance". Push & pull is a natural extension of this attitude.

As you can see, things are not as complicated as they may seem. You can compress most of this knowledge to a handful of techniques. And as you realise these techniques are natural behaviours that occurs from the right mindset and attitude, you don't even have to remember them. All you need is the attitude. :)


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