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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:39 pm 
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This is the main thing keeping me back from approaching girls. I could walk by and say hi but I wouldn't know what to say next. Not because I'm shy or anxious, I just don't have any thoughts or emotions I'd like to express. Conversations usually die pretty quickly because I run out of things to say and girl doesn't help with that because she expects me to lead conversation. Any advice?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:19 pm 
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Study the basics, learn mystery method's 5 steps so you know where you're at in an interaction. Learn some canned material that you can fall back on when you start to freeze. The book All PUA Routines is chalk full of them. Even if you don't like canned material understand that your subconscious will be working so by the time the canned material is done your brain will have thought of something genuine to say to keep the conversation going naturally.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:28 am 
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Study the basics, learn mystery method's 5 steps so you know where you're at in an interaction. Learn some canned material that you can fall back on when you start to freeze. The book All PUA Routines is chalk full of them. Even if you don't like canned material understand that your subconscious will be working so by the time the canned material is done your brain will have thought of something genuine to say to keep the conversation going naturally.
Great answer. I would add become Observant and also figure out what you want to say to women. What do you want them to know about you. Have a cool job? Amazing friends? A cool ex? Etc. This is what you talk about, yourself.

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Dude you just gotta get through it. Seriously, don't not start conversations because you're worried you won't have things to say... you might not, but then you get better through practice. I think everyone starts off a little awkward in conversations but from that you learn to be better. Ask where she's going, what she's up to, etc. but make your interest known so that it's not just small talk. Flirt/tease a bit

Just go and say hi and see what happens.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:03 am 
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Study the basics, learn mystery method's 5 steps so you know where you're at in an interaction. Learn some canned material that you can fall back on when you start to freeze. The book All PUA Routines is chalk full of them. Even if you don't like canned material understand that your subconscious will be working so by the time the canned material is done your brain will have thought of something genuine to say to keep the conversation going naturally.
I think this might be counterproductive. If you start relying on routines how are you going to develop your natural conversation? You'll probably end up using scripted lines all the time to avoid risking the dreaded awkward silence and then you'll never get used to having a real conversation...


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This is the main thing keeping me back from approaching girls. I could walk by and say hi but I wouldn't know what to say next. Not because I'm shy or anxious, I just don't have any thoughts or emotions I'd like to express. Conversations usually die pretty quickly because I run out of things to say and girl doesn't help with that because she expects me to lead conversation. Any advice?

be interested in her... try to find out what truly makes her passionate.

I'm not telling you to go into interview mode with her... but ask her something interesting like "if money didn't matter what would you be doing right now?"


what makes her tick? find 5 amazing things about her. Be interested... is that hard??? Then you can find common ground and build rapport. Plus she'll be invested in the convo

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:17 am 
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Try reading things about cold reading. That's what I did. My 'cold reading' is really just bullshit though (or painfully obvious). Look them over, pick something out and make a comment on it. Sometimes I'll guess that they're from "x" university (which is right next to where I go out sometimes and I'll usually be right haha) and I'll say they look like they go to that university (this may be based on purely the color of their clothing). I mean I really just spout bullshit most of the time. Usually, if they like you, they'll help you along in the conversation and it'll just become normal like a talk with your friends.

If they don't you can either continue pushing new tangents to get them to talk or (my suggestion) just move along. I always advise people to play the numbers game. Keeps you from putting up with bullshit and if you move fast enough you'll at the very least get some numbers from girls that you like that you can follow up with on day two's.

Also, if anything is keeping you back from approaching a girl, it likely is anxiety/fear (which is fine) just acknowledge that you're making the excuse to not open because you have nothing to say and just go in anyway.

I mean really, when it comes to the girls that have liked me when I was out, I could probably say some really degrading things and they'd still think it was just funny. Just say whatever is on your mind and get good at observing shit.

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Study the basics, learn mystery method's 5 steps so you know where you're at in an interaction. Learn some canned material that you can fall back on when you start to freeze. The book All PUA Routines is chalk full of them. Even if you don't like canned material understand that your subconscious will be working so by the time the canned material is done your brain will have thought of something genuine to say to keep the conversation going naturally.
I think this might be counterproductive. If you start relying on routines how are you going to develop your natural conversation? You'll probably end up using scripted lines all the time to avoid risking the dreaded awkward silence and then you'll never get used to having a real conversation...
It definitely isn't counterproductive, especially if you are a beginner. I still use routines like strawberry fields and the cube on my girlfriend / girls i hook up with. These 2 to me are very interesting and lead the conversation towards a sexual outcome. Even the best of us freeze up sometimes, and it's great to have some material to fall back on. You gotta give the people a bit more credit than to assume that after reading canned material that this is all they will do. In life you have to try different approaches until you find out what works best for you. I will never disregard any method because if you keep an open mind then you will always find at least one thing you can learn from each different style/approach that you can apply to your own game.

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