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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:05 pm 
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Today, my bike was stolen. And I did not write down the frame no. beforehand. So it is lost forever. DEM 782,33 just gone away. I failed making money using my internet businesses(2 businesses, one selling some goods I designed myself for mass production(book,3d printing template,...). Income since founding: 200€. All in all. Yes you can say that failed. The other business is a search engine people need to enter data to profit from it. Hardly anyone contributed in spite of occasional marketing.

Yesterday, I visited the University of Applied Sciences in my city to get information about studying there(I am 32, last time I studied was in 2006). Aggressive people everywhere. I attended some lectures, they are good but filled with all kinds of human scum. I wonder how they got permission to study there.

Anyways, I think I should get a degree to be employable at least. Last time in university I was exmatriculated due to unsufficient accomplishments.

I don't want to be among those people, they remind me of having wasted my life(as I am on average 10 years older) and still being full of fear. The same fear I felt in university back in the day. Feeling of inferiority to other men. I can't deny it, it is there and my body couldn't care less about letting it go finally. If people look aggressively - not even at me - I feel extremely bad, I observed this feeling throughout the day.

I had 1 gf in my life with 21. She was fat and disgusting and lived 400km away so we could only see each other on the weekends when she didn't have to work. At least I had sex for the first time then. Then I found Pickup. Then I had one ONS in 2006. Since then, all I got was one kiss close. The more I go out each day to pick up women now(I used to go out once a week up until one year ago, then I started going out daily) the more resentful I become. I tried getting together with asian women(I am caucasian) and they always rejected me. Just to see asian women with caucasian guys who are no better than me. I tried getting together with black women and once I almost kissed one just to get LJBFed. Then I saw some dude with a beautiful black woman who was all over him and the guy neither behaved nor looks better than me.

Then again I have to talk to another woman because no woman on this planet has ever approached me.

I attended martial arts just to get my nose displaced. Also I stopped being interested in getting hit for no reason but the slim hope of getting confidence.

I feel so worthless, I've been feeling this way for years actually and it got worse every year. As a result I cannot even open anymore as women perceive everything I do as creepy. Then I listen to Eckhart Tolle, which doesn't click with me.

What should I do first, how do I start?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:31 pm 
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I would seriously suggest that you talk to a psychologist, especially CBT (not psychoanalysis). They are educated to give you the right tools to handle this.

Otherwise, you could start by being proud about everything you accomplish, no matter how small. Never compare yourself with anyone else. Just focus on your own progress.

About pickup and your success with women... Maybe you should consider going out with someone who is more experienced and who can tell you what you are doing wrong. It is probably your low self esteem that spoils your chances. You can improve that by focusing on your body language, by having a confident posture. When you straighten up your back, your will automatically start feeling a little bit more confident.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:02 pm 
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Thanks. I found this video helpful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OVZ9xk1B-o

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Exercise every morning, preferably a set of morning sprints, and cut back on soda, cakes and other sweets.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:59 am 
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Best advice I can give you: Man Up.

I'm not trying to sound harsh as this was the way it was put to me. Everybody goes through harsh, tough and "impossible to see the light at the end of the tunnel" times.

I was overweight when I was youngster (24 now) had man boobs and such. The whole standard cliche bullying problem. My confidence was low and I blamed others. I never blamed myself for my issues. Then I started blaming myself. I lose the weight, got my first lay (fucking model bro), built up my confidence and learned THE MOST important lesson in my life that I will FORCE into my sons head.

DO NOT give a shit what others think of you as a person. ONLY care about your actions and the consequences your actions could have on your life, your families life or your friends life. Live your life to the fullest and always ALWAYS do the right thing. You will know when you do the right thing because barely anybody will notice it but that doesn't matter. You know you did the right thing and that's all that matters.

P.S. I'm in I.T, no search engine will ever EVER beat Google. It is pointless to think otherwise.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:09 pm 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1kTF3smOE

i will publish soon a tutorial on self affirmations you will find this very helpful.

for now:
failing business it says you need improvement or advice.

i'm pretty sure you always see people everywhere, totally idiots have nothing but they are so happy, and full of them selves, know the secret?
they always have a source that raises their self esteem when it gets damaged, place like home, by the way its the reason that some people like so much home, and other hate as hell, the main idea is source love or how much love they did get.

things to do:
1) find a path or a goal, to live by it.
2) stay away from people that will tare you down, people that week you.
3)while you interact with family or friends recognize what or who changes your mood, suddenly analyze it and set your focus on it, give a person a comment on never repeat it again, if it doesn't works tell him that you will cut any relation to him/her, doesn't work cut any connection down, as you understand now, these little things damages our ego and nullifies our abilities, the self esteem and society approval (consist basically of our daily interactions) bonded together, like an equation, decrease one of them and then other one decrease and when it does it silence your inner voice that keeps your confidence, yes even your family which is for blame from the first time.
4) build relations with good people, in good communities.

the key is never let anyone, turn you down, if you will start to get positive interactions you mood will raise fast, it's proven

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Get a routine going. Do the same thing every day. Make sure you're working on the fastest path to lots of money and good looks. The path to happiness is paved with money and good looks. But knowing you got there also requires self-knowledge.


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Make sure you're working on the fastest path to lots of money and good looks. The path to happiness is paved with money and good looks. But knowing you got there also requires self-knowledge.
This is the most disappointing advice ever. I won't read your reply or anyone's reply who quotes this.

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Just remember this, the core of the pick up community is basically just self help. You're here to embetter yourself. Millions and millions of people go through their lives doing nothing. Just by trying to be better than you are you are a far better person than them. And failures? Who the fuck cares? You tried didn't you, the majority of people just sit at home getting excited cause of some precooked meal they bought. They sit there trying to get through the day cause the next might be better. Meanwhile you're out here doing shit, you're trying. But the main thing is simple, as long as you do what you think is best you're perfect. People will always try to put you down no matter what you think. I mean if you say you think all races are equal, someone is gonna hate you. In the end just make yourself happy and try you're best. Sure it's all you can do, but what more do you need to do.

TL;DR: Enjoy yourself, you'll always have yourself for company. Everything you do is perfect, with all the information you've had, you couldn't have made a better decision. Even if you royally fuck something up, as long as you didn't mess it up for the wrong reasons (trying to be cool, etc..) it's the best you could reasonably be expected to do. It's perfect.


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dude, having your bike stolen is going to upset anyone, having no insurance makes it seem even worse.... :( and it has naturally put you in a bad frame of mind, which can easily get you thinking about the past and how you feel you might have failed in certain areas of your life

some desperate / opportunist thief happened to see your bike - it's harsh but nothing personal.

It's not your fault.



If this is just a temporary feeling of sadness due to having your bike stolen and you are usually happy, confident and optimistic about the future / women / work etc, there is no real need to read any further.


On the other hand, like some of the other posters have said, get into a regular routine of proper exercise - this will make you feel good because

exercise releases endorphins - feel good chemicals released
the fact that you are doing of your own free will to better yourself
putting structure/activity into your life
you will gain confidence because of the improvement in your fitness / physique.
you will sleep better and this will further reduce low mood and help with any anxiety

I would suggest joining a gym, doing a mix of cardio and weights - training in this environment will help with motivation and give you the chance to be around others too, maybe join some regular classes.

Shame about getting your nose broken... I've done martial arts and yes, there are some idiots around who do just want to hurt others, however most people who do martial arts are usually respectful of others, the really bad guys are in the minority. I almost had my ankle accidentally broken on monday in jujitsu, in the beginning I was suspicious that it was less than accidental and I was a bit angry and quite frustrated, as I could barely walk. It's been hampering me with approaching women in the daytime last week but I will be going back to training as soon as I can

Every guy on earth with two arms and legs has all the abilities to be successful with women / people and life in general - he just needs to tap into that and express it outwardly in a masculine, assertive, adult way.

This requires improved confidence and self belief;

Do something that really get's your out of you comfort zone and regular routine, it doesnt have to be martial arts, something fun and exciting that challenges you, which you would enjoy telling others about - whether it be abseiling, bungee jumping, acting classes (get used to have everyone focusing on you). Women like guys who are unafraid of taking risks. Never do all this stuff just to attract women, do it for yourself - you will feel good about yourself because you are making life better for you - because you believe you are worth it. This then makes you much more interesting and appealing to others, women included.

You mentioned college / university, so you are obviously intelligent - have you thought about other college courses / part-time things you are interested in???

I am not saying this applies to you, however if still feel there are things from the past that somehow hold you back or you are unable to forget, then maybe consider talking to someone about your feelings in more depth... alongside with making your life more full and enjoyable. I am not going to list all the types of help available because only you know what you need and your are smart enough to make the decisions and take the action you need :)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:32 am 
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I would seriously suggest that you talk to a psychologist, especially CBT (not psychoanalysis). They are educated to give you the right tools to handle this.
Thanks for the suggestion. They are not. I speak from experience.

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Going to a psych can often have the opposite of the intended effect. I think the biggest problem here is your indecisiveness, OP. You're trying to start your own business but it fails and it sounds like you've almost given up. You want to go to school but you don't want to be mixed into large crowds of people 10 years younger than you.

Maybe try making up your mind on what exactly you want to do first. Go to school? Start another business? Or whatever else you might not have told us about?


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Maybe try making up your mind on what exactly you want to do first. Go to school? Start another business? Or whatever else you might not have told us about?
How would you approach this?

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1. You were never given a guarantee that life is fair.

2. The world owes you nothing.

You better toughen up and deal with life in terms of #1 and #2 above.

I did. I was worse off than you, and now I'm doing great.

That said, on therapy and medication, studies are showing time and time again that all therapy and drugs really are doing is creating a fake disease by manufacturing a cure. They're broadening the net for people to be considered "depressed", etc. when in fact they're just dealing with a life and a world that's in fact, actually fucked up.

Some people really don't have a mental disorder; they are pissed and feel sick about a world that they have every reason to be pissed and feel really sick about.

Only solution is to man up and take your challenges head-on.

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