I need help with my current situation. I've been good friends with this girl for over 7 years we used to hang out even when both of us were dating other people and she was just a friend to me. I don't like her as a friend anymore and want to get out of the friend zone. My problem is that regular PUA stuff doesn't work on her. She's a christian and doesn't believe in sex before marriage (which I'm absolutely ok with. I'm ready to settle down and i think she's gonna make a perfect wife). A few months ago she got out of a year long relationship and I started hanging out more with her (about once or twice a week). yesturday I asked her if she's over that guy yet and if she'd actually go out on a date if somebody asked her out, to which she replied: "Probably not I'm scared to date now. You don't think we're dating do yo? i don't want you to get a wrong impression since we're kinda hanging out a lot lately.." I said "i never get a wrong impression" (i know, not the best answer but there wasn't much time to think) and then I just switched the topic

Anyways, any advice guys? By my standards she's a perfect girl to settle down with and I don't wanna mess it up

Go out and game other girls.

You're too invested in this one.

The only way to get out of the friendzone... is by doing the exact opposite of a guy in the friendzone. Ignore her and game other women. This will gauge her interest... IF she's into you.

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thanks guys ill try ignoring her since gaming other women seemed not to do anything in the past. Like i said we used to hang out as friends when i was dating other women.
So next time she texts me to hang out should i say something like "sorry i cant, already made plans with someone else" or not reply at all?

ignoring will backfire you, she can give up at some point if she is into you and then it will get much harder. Try some light flirting and sexual jokes here and there with her and keep increasing the kino and flirting, turn your friendship into something sexual. Just don't follow her if you genuinely busy tell her if she ask you to hang out, if you disagree with her say soo just take the lead, don't be creepy though. BTW getting out of the friend zone is hard so don't expect to succeed but give it a try anyway.

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I don't know where you get your information from, ignoring a girl you've given LOTS of attention to over the span of 7 years... is likely to create attraction. If he increases kino and flirting with only her... he will stay in the fucking friend zone if she is not interested.

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She's also a christian and i know for sure she's a virgin and i think increasing a sexual tension might make her feel uncomfortable.

Date a better girl, one that will put out. This one is worthless.

I'm kinda ready to settle down so I'm looking for a wife material and this girl pretty much meets all my "wife" requirements...

What are your "wife requirements"? Why can't you find a girl who embodies your "wife requirements", while actually being mature enough to have sex?

Personally, I'd say if a girl who is a virgin fits your wife requirements, you should probably reevaluate your requirements.

Marrying a virgin sounds like a horrible recipe for relationship failure and terrible sex.

well here are a few main once
1. she's a solid 9 (a lot of my friends think she's a 10)
2. outdoorsy and very fit
3. awesome personality and sense of humor
4. stable good paying job
5. christian
6. gets along with my family and friends
and the fact that she's a virgin actually makes me respect her even more, that means she has values and she sticks to them. I thought about the possibility of bad sex but I'll worry about it once or if I start dating her. My main goal right now is to get out of deep friend zone...

1. she's a solid 9 (a lot of my friends think she's a 10)

So? This is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to choosing a wife.

2. outdoorsy and very fit

Are you outdoorsy? Why not join an outdoorsy singles meetup or something.

3. awesome personality and sense of humor

Ok, that's pretty common

4. stable good paying job

Pretty common.

5. christian

Pretty common.

6. gets along with my family and friends

Not too hard to find.

and the fact that she's a virgin actually makes me respect her even more, that means she has values and she sticks to them. I thought about the possibility of bad sex but I'll worry about it once or if I start dating her. My main goal right now is to get out of deep friend zone...


Not likely to happen. You're too invested into her. She's just simply not as valuable as you're making her out to be. Personally I consider "dedicated" virgins to be somewhat damaged goods, but I suppose that's a taste thing.

My recommendation is still to go after other girls. Maybe she'll chase you, but you sure as hell won't get out of the "friend zone" putting her on a pedestal like you are.

Maybe she won't chase you. This girl may never be yours, for the rest of time. Ever.


Go out and hit on other girls. You're in a scarcity mentality right now, you need to come to abundance.

Sorry that you wasted seven years, but that's probably what this was - a waste.

Firstly: Have you ever thought of the possibility that... she's not that into you? You can't make her love you the way you are loving her. Attraction isn't a choice, it's a feeling.

The more you chase her the more she's going to run away.

Secondly: Stop making as if she is the best girl for you! Take her off the damned pedastal you've placed her on.

Two things needs to happen if you REALLY want her:

1) Be brutally honest with her, and put your balls on the line. DON'T SAY I LOVE YOU. Just be open and honest about what you want.
2) If she's really that into you, she'll thank you, reciprocate the feelings and happily ever after... but if not... Take it like a man and move on.

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Those traits are pretty common but not all in one person at least i haven't met a girl like that..

I am outdoor type and pretty atheletic too.

Not really wasted, she actually was just a friend to me untill just few weeks ago. I simpy wasn't interested in dating her before coz i knew she's a virgin and i didn't wanna waste my time. And like i said me and her used to hang out when both of us were dating other people so she does know that i can easily find a gf she simply does not get jealous when i hook up with other girls.

And i do know that my chances with her are probably <5% but im willing to take the odds. the worst that can happen is i will have wasted 2-3 month's on her, not a big deal... What i really need right now is some ideas that can increase my chances...

You are wasting your time. Tell her that you want to date her because you feel you want more than friendship. This will ruin your friendship of course but since you don't want to be friends it doesn't matter.
She might say yes, most likely no. Then at least you've done your part so you can move on.
I don't understand why you would resort to any tactics like (ignore her, game others) IN ORDER TO spark interest in her. You put too much effort into this. She doesn't.
It's your life but if you value your life then you don't waste time on things with little positive outcome.
The reason why you haven't met a girl like her is because you are not meeting girls.