OK I have been out of the game for a long time 27 now got married at 20 big mistake whatever. So here we are I am trying some online dating just to get back in it. So far nearly every girl I msg writes me back which is good right? usually small 3-5 word sentences that don't really leave me anything to work with. I am just curious are most girls on sites like POF OKC ect down to bang and can anyone give me some pointers as far as how many msgs do you usually send before trying to get them digits and trying to meet up? also some examples of how you have found the most success doing online dating?

Its a numbers game.

There will be time wasters. You just got to find the ones that are legit, same goes for real life 'seduction'.

When I get the one word replies, I usually just reply with a " :p " and see if she keeps the interaction going which will mean an IOI.

If I know the girl is not really interested. I will bring out the qualification, I will send something a bit challenging to her, this will make or break the interaction. For example:

"If I was alone with your best friend in the whole world, what would he/she tell me about you that you probably won't mention in your profile?, the good and the bad "

If she still one word replies, Don't waste anymore time, but if she gives you a detailed answer, you will have some investment from her - you are on a good path and just continue to game her.

Good luck

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Depends on the dating site. I haven't gotten laid much off of pof - i don't like it. I've gotten laid alot off meetme but it's dominated by girls 16-22 so you're not gonna have much luck there. It usually takes a fair amount of rapport to get a number. around 30 messages each? not too bad. if it's really detailed long paragraphs expect a number close in under 15. once you've built enough comfort just be like "sorry it's taking so long to reply, why don't you give me your digits? - it's easier for me to keep up with you by text lol". alot of girls will give you a shit test here -> "you gotta work for my number", if you don't have any clever jokes, just say "ok" and continue talking, you won't need to ask for it again, she'll just give it to you in a few messages once she realizes you don't care.

it depends on the age group too. i've found girls 18/19 will fuck me 75% of the time on a first date cause they've never been on a 'real' one. about 70% of the girls 20-23 require that you be their bf before they'll have sex. i just mention the word commitment on our first meet and they're ready to give it up for nothing. haven't had a ton of experience with women 23+ online so i can't help ya there.

good luck

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