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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:27 pm 
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So let's see. I have a gf. Let's call my gf A. I finally hungout with this other girl (hb 9) the day after i met my asked my gf out. Let's call the friend B. I met both on the internet and it was my first time seeing em in person. A is already my gf when i meet B and B has been giving me advice on other women for a few weeks now. B has had a bf for 2 years and she calls me her "bestie" lol.

Me and B hung out and everything came naturally. It was quite the romantic adventure. I barely made any moves. I gave her a massage and did what i could to turn her on and let her see me in a sexual light and keep her mind off her bf.

After day 1 with B she texts me: "are you attracted to me", "as a matter of fact yes i am, very much so, you?", "yes you're so my type, you're so cute, i like you alot, etc."

After day 1 i lost feelings for A and was talking to B alot. Told her "i lost feelings for my gf because i can't get this other girl off my mind but i can't tell you who yet, it's a secret". At this point i decided i wanted to make her mine, all mine.

Day 2 with B: At the beginning of the day she was starting fights with her bf. Spent the whole day with her. Lots and lots of escalating. Lots of flirting. "so when you and your bf are in bed, how do you make him horny?", made her kiss my neck, i returned the favor. Told her she was the girl i made me lose feelings for A". ended up playing with her pussy at the end of the day, couldn't F close. Asked if she was cool with cheating and she said it wouldn't bother her.

After day 2: lots more texting, tried getting her to break it off with her bf. She wouldnt and still won't.

Day 3: we were supposed to hang out but she just ended up driving me to my gf's house because something came up. i grabbed her tits just to test the boundaries and make sure she still wanted me. she didnt protest at all.

day 4: it's her birthday and her bf is busy working. So i take her out to dinner and a movie. Lot's of laughs, lots of flirting. she's still digging me but still wont even consider leaving her bf for me. i'm starting to lose control, im now the one chasing her. we fooled around a little bit in the movie theater. after the movie she had to leave before i could f-close.

Havent seen her since. Haven't broken up with the gf yet. I still need more pussy to stop me from getting attached to B so idk what to do. i clearly wanna make her mine but she wants to stay friends. i was gonna accept that but my friend said that no girl is impossible to hook so here i am, seeking help. How can i turn her from a good friend with benefits into a relationship? i feel like she's perfect for me and there has to be something i can say or do that will make her fall for me or see me in more of a romantic light than a sexual light...

I know where this is headed. I'm the guy she cheats on with and i'm also the guy that she comes to for advice and the guy that gives her attention. She likes the security of having her bf and will probably never leave him. i'm lost, i have no clue what i can say or do from here. Yes i'm gonna end up getting laid and get some good head. Why would i wanna complicate this?? BECAUSE i could see myself loving her and i havent loved in ages and she's the one i want. Help me my brothers?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:17 pm 
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Stop focusing on her leaving her boyfriend for you, focus on getting her to sleep with you first. That is your mistake. Women get attached after SEX. Get her attached first, THEN worry about the rest.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:36 pm 
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I think you're absolutely right. Thanks lol.

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Mistake #1 - Bringing up her boyfriend as a topic of conversation which shows you are insecure and intimidated by him

Mistake #2 - Bringing up her boyfriend in a sexual frame, making her think about hrr boyfriend in a sexual way instead of you.

Mistake #3 - Bringing up cheating. Just roll with it and fuck her good. If the sex is good she will come back for more. Trying to prove you are better than her boyfriend will always end in tears.

Girls make decisions with their clitoris', not their brains.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:35 am 
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you're correct in 2/3 mistakes.

#1. we truly act like best friends and that includes talking about our bf/gf's. i'm by no means intimidated by her bf.

and you're right on #2 but i brought it up for the purpose of escalating. I hadnt kissed her or anything at that point, other than massaging her back and ass. i'll give u a play by play, i wasn't bringing up her bf in a sexual frame for now reason. we were walking along and i was describing to her how i turn other girls on and i could tell it was rubbing off on her. i then asked. so if i was your bf how would u turn me on. "well with alex i'd probably start by kissing his neck"... "show me", "now?", "yes", "no everyone is looking lol", i sit her down on the grass "who cares". then i said "now what would u do again?" she pointed to my neck "i'd slowly kiss him on here, here and then here and then i'd move to the other side and then i'd start to---", "hold on so you would kiss him here?" as i kissed her neck and sucked softly, "yes sort of", "or was it more like this?" as i licked from her collar bone up slowly upwards, kissing along the way. this went on for 20 or so minutes until i was kissing between her upper pelvis and had to restrain myself.

#3 can't agree more...

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:46 am 
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also one other big problem im having is not falling for her. i feel like im getting attached and i can hardly help it. this is the reason i don't take it slow with women, i can't restrain my emotions when i like them a lot and dont have sex for an outlet. i know you're gonna say fuck some other girls right? well im working on it. im gonna see my gf tomorrow and i'm supposed to meet up with another hb on tuesday, she's down to get a hotel already lol. i'm trying to get a hold of old gf's and trying to get new numbers. i feel like a large dose of pussy might be the only thing that can help me with my oneitis. it's not like i can just stop seeing this girl, i wanna be around her more than anything.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:23 pm 
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Hooking up with old GF's is lazy and usually not worth it, unless your whole relationship revolved around sex anyway. Relationships end for a reason.

Always push to meet new girls. There are girls without boyfriends who are hotter than this one, without the baggage.


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There are girls without boyfriends who are hotter than this one, without the baggage.
I suppose if they are bestfriends it's not just her hotness that made him want her so badly. Especially since he's getting pussy somewhere else anyway, doesn't matter if they're exes or not.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:41 am 
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Friends with benefits is one step away from a relationship. You're doing things right, just keep it that way and try to F-close as soon as possible. The only way she's going to chase you in such a situation is when you f-close her several times and be more fun than her boyfriend.

PS: NEVER reveal your emotions to her or cry or any shit of that type. Plus stop mentioning her boyfriend to her, because as some guy said, she'll feel that you're intimidated by him.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:19 pm 
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She's never going to be "yours all yours"

if she has no problem cheating on her boyfriend she's more than likely going to cheat on you even if you get her.

What goes around comes around.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:09 am 
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There are girls without boyfriends who are hotter than this one, without the baggage.
I suppose if they are bestfriends it's not just her hotness that made him want her so badly. Especially since he's getting pussy somewhere else anyway, doesn't matter if they're exes or not.
Yeah exactly what instinct said. It's not her hottness that is making me want her so bad. It's that she's my type plus the chemistry that i have with her and i'm telling you a girl this 'right' for me only comes around once a year or so. and i'd just be using my exes for their pussy so i dont go falling for my best friend too soon.
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Friends with benefits is one step away from a relationship. You're doing things right, just keep it that way and try to F-close as soon as possible. The only way she's going to chase you in such a situation is when you f-close her several times and be more fun than her boyfriend.

PS: NEVER reveal your emotions to her or cry or any shit of that type. Plus stop mentioning her boyfriend to her, because as some guy said, she'll feel that you're intimidated by him.
What happens if i reveal my emotions to her? o.o if she's revealing hers to me as well I dont see how it could be bad to connect with her on an emotional level
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She's never going to be "yours all yours"

if she has no problem cheating on her boyfriend she's more than likely going to cheat on you even if you get her.

What goes around comes around.
Yeah this is my biggest fear right here but it can't be helped. "you cant get her unless u make her cheat on her bf but if you make her cheat you won't be able to keep her later". There's no way around it, I guess. Sure i guess i could ditch her after i fuck her and wait a year for mrs right to come around or i could just stay friends with benefits with her forever... Or maybe there is a way i could get her without making her cheat? Ugh.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:12 am 
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But really guys none of you are answering my question. How can i slow down my feelings for her? I'm completely happy and satisfied when i'm with her and depressed when I dont get to see her after work or whatever.

***And another problem that has developed with her is that she's starting to flake on me. What is your general response when a girl flakes on you? Should I start freezing her out or something? Should I punish her in same way? Should I just go out and tell her how much fun I had without her???

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:24 pm 
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If girl is flaking you freeze out. That's general concept usually. Especially since you have a hard time getting her out of your head, it would do some good to you too. You shouldn't show her how much fun you can have without her, you should show that to yourself.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:50 pm 
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What does a freeze out consist of exactly? Just ignoring all of her calls and texts for a set period of time?

If i care about her, how long should i make it last?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:52 pm 
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Exactly. Freeze out is ignoring her all in all. A few days won't hurt for sure.

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