I talk to the girl online, we connect, she's cool and sometimes even very eager to meet and everything's smooth, then when it's either time to meet or just a random point in our conversations, they just act like they're dead, not a single message, reply, nothing.

I'll admit I have a very bad problem of one-itis, not the traditional one, but more like I can't really handle talking to multiple girls at once, I try to build a connection when I talk to a girl and when I do it with numerous ones, I feel like I'm spreading myself too thin and it becomes a chore. Not to mention thinking and brainstorming my replies and how I should be talking and elevating the conversation (which I'm not very good at either).

I never had a girlfriend, I'm a hopeless romantic type of guy and I'd choose love over countless flings. So whenever I talk to someone, I tend to get attached very easily. Thing is I'm so lonely and deprived of women and have been my entire life, so much that I just get extremely bad mood swings, I'll be at the gym working out, and seeing women all around me just starts to frustrate me because I can't get any of them, and I start to get angry at myself trying to figure out why is it like this for me. The only good thing I get from this is I end up lifting 80% - 85% of my maximums with what appears to be not much problem.

Now I met this girl on PoF, and she's probably like a 6 ~ 6.5 to most guys, but to be honest to me she's a 9. And no I'm not overrating her because of her reactions to me or because she's the one I'm currently talking to. But more like a quick glimpse at her personality as well as her looks and I couldn't resist talking to her.

So below I attached pictures of our conversations, I removed her display pic thumbnails, name, username as well as addresses and pins for privacy reasons.

PoF: http://postimg.org/image/umo7f6x77/
BBM: http://postimg.org/image/bf12ilevn/
FB: http://postimg.org/image/5s4pl4ccz/

It starts with the convo from POF, then the handwritten one that I transcribed from BBM, then the last one from facebook.

Now since this has happened way too many times, and I don't want to just leave it as it is like I did with all the other girls, what should I do? She's into spirituality, love of nature, art, meditation, soul healing, etc. Likes all sorts of music, loves to paint, loves to drink and party but now prefers to stay at home, which is literally everything like me, which is why I'm seeking help for this one and possibly future girls instead of just leaving it silent and letting them just ignore and forget.

I have a feeling like she lost attraction when we added each other facebook, mainly because some of my posts recently weren't "positive", and I thought that too, but she still likes most of my comments on her statuses and pictures, especially cause they're funny and that's the only thing I'm good at and possibly my only strength in game.

So what do I do? How do I re-ignite conversation or interest? Do I give her an ultimatum? Do I open up and speak honestly or would that chase her away? Help

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Honestly its not horrible, but you keep talking about how much you have and common late nights, movies etc and talking about it working well, planning you wedding etc. It comes off as inauthentic and unoriginal. Mix it up and don't always make it an ABC conversation. To answer your question about contacting her again after she stopped responding, I would say Don't.

I only mentioned all those things once, not like its the entirety of our conversations, but I don't know what else to say, how do I connect while being authentic and original? Someone gave me your advice in the past, I tried to be original and authentic, and it was a so bad that every girl I was talking to also stopped.

K, so I don't message her again. I haven't messaged her since Thursday, but she hasn't deleted me and we still have contact through likes. : / Is it really a lost case?

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If you don't go after what you want. You will never have IT.
If you don't ask. The answer will always be NO.
If you don't step forward. You will always be in the same PLACE.

Hey there, sad to hear about that. But if she stopped replying, don't push it. If she ever does by herself, great if not, i am sure you gonna be fine.

I know I'll be fine, its just this happens too often, and I always regret not trying harder for those ones that I truly value over all those other girls. I look past the face most of the time and when I find someone that's overall amazing, I hate feeling like its hopeless.

But I get what you mean. Hypothetically speaking though, if I were to reply anything after my last message to her on facebook, what should it be or what would it do in the most probable case?

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If you don't go after what you want. You will never have IT.
If you don't ask. The answer will always be NO.
If you don't step forward. You will always be in the same PLACE.

Freeze her for a bit, then do what odyn said.

Freeze her then not reply her again?

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If you don't ask. The answer will always be NO.
If you don't step forward. You will always be in the same PLACE.

Yep, its a demonstration of higher value and when you thaw her :p, you get to give it another go but with a better approach. She got to comfortable with you, in pua you want to IOI then IOD, then calibrate, ask more indepth questions not the standard ones. On PoF you did well, but you needed to pull longer responses from her and build a better connection that sets you apart from everyone else.

I re-read this reply at least 5 times and I'm still highly intrigued by it. Could you please go into further detail if its not too much trouble with you?

What I understand so far is freeze her, possibly not have any contact with her? Like no messaging or liking/commenting on her stuff? Then after some time give it another go and re-opening her better? How long would be appropriate to wait?

Didn't understand what you mean't by "in pua you want to IOI then IOD, then calibrate". How indepth should my questions be? That's the problem with me, I don't know how to get them to start talking and opening up. I'm always the one that ends up getting the talk OUT of them, and I'm the only one looking like I'm writing more than 2 lines. I thought women loved talking about themselves :/ boy did I hear wrong.

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If you don't go after what you want. You will never have IT.
If you don't ask. The answer will always be NO.
If you don't step forward. You will always be in the same PLACE.

Women love to talk about themselves... everyone does but the questions you asked were basic. With the IOI then IOD thing, you need you need to keep a push-pull relationship, that prevents her from feeling like she can have you. When you open she thinks of you as 10 if you push too much the 10 lowers, if you pull too much the 10 lowers as well. You want to keep her at the 10.

When getting her to qualify,

Try a BHRR (Bait-Hook-Reel-Release):

You: (bait: a hoop for her to jump through) So do you cook?
HB: (hook: she qualifies herself) Yes, I make the best meatballs.
You: (reel: you reward her IOI with IOI) Awesome, I love meatballs.
You: (release: you add an IOD calibrator) Too bad I only date tall girls


Your questions were somewhat like:

AlwaysTrying: So where are you from?
HB: Santa Barbara.
AlwaysTrying: Cool. What do you do?
HB: I’m a nurse.
AlwaysTrying: Nice. I’m an engineer. So do you come here often?

….. And so, boring, fucking on……… By the third question you have lost most of the attraction you might have triggered from opening, and you is now nothing but a bother to her fun- seeking emotional self.

You should be here:

AlwaysTrying: So where are you from?
HB: Santa Barbara.
AlwaysTrying: Really? I like… Totally thought that you’re from like Arkansas or something! It’s those eyes! And I was expecting some southern biscuits from you… Wait... Do they have good southern biscuits in Santa Barbara?
HB: No, why would they!?
AlwaysTrying: Ok now that’s disappointing… Does Santa Barbara have ANYTHING that’s good?!
HB: The parties are awesome! It’s right next to the beach!
AlwaysTrying: Wait a second… Not only are you a cutie, but you love to party too! Holy shit I’m like totally in love already!

Hopefully in-depth enough.

Yes, very well indepth. Thanks a bunch. I'll try that next time.

Any tips for after freezing her though? What kind of material's good for re-opening?

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If you don't go after what you want. You will never have IT.
If you don't ask. The answer will always be NO.
If you don't step forward. You will always be in the same PLACE.

Honestly, re opening is not something you need to be very concerned with, just a simple "Hey" works.

Alright. And by the looks of things, since everything I attached is all the 1 on 1 contact we've had. Do I use the in-depth reply you gave me on her and try to connect more? I feel like it'd be weird asking questions pretending we're still in the "I have no idea who you are" phase.

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If you don't go after what you want. You will never have IT.
If you don't ask. The answer will always be NO.
If you don't step forward. You will always be in the same PLACE.

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But there also is the chance that it isn't you, maybe she's shy, maybe she met up with an ex.

You need to get at least one long conversation in, over any of those chat tools.

On the subject of conversations:

The purpose of the interview question is to find out more about her in a
culturally accepted way. And once you gather the specific information, you
can then focus on it immediately or store it in your memory and come back
to it later. I chose to focus on the topic she brought up, and I used it as the
base to a fun and flirtatious conversation. If your improvisation skills aren’t that good yet, feel free to use canned material that you are comfortable with. During the interview stage, the content of your conversation doesn’t quite matter as long as you keep a fun and flirtatious vibe. Your goal during this stage is to build a connection with the woman while maintaining the frame that you are there to pick her up. Make sure to restate your interest in her every now and then.

Basically - Ask her questions about her answers.

Thanks a fucking bunch man, I love you, thanks. I'll keep all of that in mind.
On bbm, I asked her out right away mostly since I was a bit nervous about her losing interest if I waited too long, maybe I rushed it? But I'll keep the mood thing in mind from now on.

As for facebook, I know it was the worst, and it was so bad it pushed me to make this thread. In her defense she seems to have a pretty rough life since some guy she knew was harassing her and apparently threatened or tried to kill her or something, didn't understand the whole story but yeah, and it was pretty recent so.

Anyway. From what I got from you so far, this is what I want to go about it, you tell me the do's or don't's:

-Wait and freeze her for about a week, possibly til next Wednesday (since last contact we had was Tuesday night but my last unanswered message to her was last Thursday)
-Post on her wall maybe? She's very slow with chats since she goes on it from her phone, but notifications are quicker since she's always more active when I like or comment on her timeline
-As for the post after freezing her, was thinking something playful like "What's up gangster. How's the thug life?"
-Have a long conversation with her. But don't know where I'll do that, on fb or bbm, she's a slow replier but has her fast moments for an hour or so here and there.
-Interview question. Should I ask her about aspirations? Passions? Why she does what she does in life and if she always wanted to that since she was young? My improvisation skills have their moments, sometimes I suck so bad I'm speechless, other times I'm not bad at all.

Confused about two things though. How do you keep a frame that you're picking her up? Like what would that be like?
And how deep of an interest should I re-instate to her? Like a "you're pretty awesome" type? Or "Haha you're cute when you ____" type? I'm guessing if I show too much interest she might lose hers.

_________________
If you don't go after what you want. You will never have IT.
If you don't ask. The answer will always be NO.
If you don't step forward. You will always be in the same PLACE.