Hello Gentleman, It is nice to finally be making a post on this forum, as I have shadowed it for several years. I don't want to go into too much detail about myself except to make it clear that although I am new to posting in this forum, I am certainly what you would call a master pick up artist. I am 23 years old and I have been studying the game for 6 years. I turned my hobby into a profession when I was 18 by becoming a world renowned male exotic dancer and escort. I was featured on national television and such several times. I have banged 100's of women. My game however, is not flawless. I decided to retire from the career I had built on seducing women last year and start a normal life. I have a very good career for my age now, running a contracting business. I have my own house, vehicles, the works. I'm naturally very good looking and an obvious alpha male. But, the sad truth is gentleman, that its all meaning less and less to me every day. I recently moved back to my home town after having been away, traveling and working for almost 5 years. It's a great city with many beautiful women... yet I have hit a speed bump. Although, I am known everywhere I go and it would seem by PUA logic that every girl would want me, I am having more trouble with young women here than I have ever had. Last night for example I visited a popular local bar... there were probably 30 people there from my highschool and it turned into one huge party. I'm known by all of my old peers as "the famous guy", the one who made it, the successful one. I spoke with several attractive females in our groups but none of them were appropriate targets for me except for one. And just like has been happening every time lately, she cold shouldered me. She was polite in a sense. I bought her a drink. Then later facebooked her to ask her out, and she didn't even respond. Another girl who I met through another group of friends last week, made out with me that night, and now is playing the short, hard to get, not interested game on me HARD. WTF IS GOING ON!?!? I apologize for the wall of text but I don't get it. I'm still getting laid, but the girls I'm really lusting after seem afraid of me. It's almost as if my reputation has destroyed my chances. These are not girls I would want to wife yet, they are gorgeous, young playful girls. I am successful and mature for our age. I just want to fuck. I am used to being able to fuck any women I want. Am I just experiencing a more realistic seduction lifestyle for the first time, or am I making some crucial mistake? One of my friendgirls who is a HB8 here did tell me that the young girls here probably think I am coming on too strong and they are not used to that. But, I am not about wasting time or playing games. Help me figure out what the issue is here gentleman? Sorry again, for the wall of text. I am a very confused veteran at this point. The whole game is not making any sense.

Hey man,

Judging by your challenges, and not to oversimplify it, it just seems like you are acting exactly as those girls expect you to act.

Yes, I understand not wanting to dick around and play games…but as the games evolve and the girls evolve, you have to switch it up (assuming you haven’t done so already). You know your reputation, how about adding a different element to your interactions?

I am considered a “player” when people first meet me, mostly because I’m friendly and I treat women in a certain way. But with that comes some ASD (anti-slut defense), where the girl feels that she doesn’t want to end up just a statistic. So then comes the disconnect in what she WANTS and what she feels is a risk to her reputation/emotional state.

If all you do is want to fuck anyways, this is going to be tough treading at least where you are running your game now. I know there are millions of variables that go into this, but have you taken a look at the type of women you go after? Maybe you are selecting out of your “zone.” What I mean is, if I want to fuck no strings attached, I tend to gravitate towards those types of women so the odds are better. Are you switching up your demographic? Sometimes you get caught in a rut with certain types of women regardless of the fact that you may have changed (for good or bad).

I’m just throwing ideas but how about altering your game that it’s a little more passive. And by that I mean a little more luring. These girls know you know how to run your game, but we want to tap in to the innate feeling of “I wonder if I can tame him” or “impress him” etc. This requires the ball to be a little more in HER court than before.

I got out of a 4 year relationship a few years ago and I basically decided to be passive in how I approach women, mostly to stay single as long as possible. It didn’t work immediately, but I started to find a balance between being passive yet throwing enough tasty bread crumbs her way to entice her to be proactive with ME. Remember, when a girl is acting on her own, she’s already rationalized why hooking up with you is OK (when you become the aggressor, the ASD tends to come out more frequently).

So in much the same way Michael Jordan developed an unstoppable fadeaway jump shot towards the end of his career, you may need to add a small but powerful element.

Again, as the veteran that you are, I assume your repertoire is vast. But sometimes tapping into an old (or new) skill to supplement your recent success is enough to push your game to cosmic levels. Big changes don’t always need to be made, just smart ones =)

Good luck man and I’m interested in this entire topic of keeping yourself fresh and versatile

Man, very good response. Thank you, I enjoyed reading it. Everything you said seemed spot on and makes perfect sense. Through the years I have definitely noticed phases. In fact, certain go to lines I used to use and such cant be used anymore because as the game has been popularized often women will have already heard it before from some other guy trying to practice his game. The truth is I am way beyond the desire to use tricks anymore, I run everything completely off of inner game and try to make my interactions as natural as possible. And yes, this is where I have hit a rut lately and a sticking point. And yes again, it is definitely due to me switching my demographic up. I am not going after the club/party sluts anymore. I'm going after girls that I feel more of a genuine attraction too, but in many cases it is something about them that makes me not see them as "LTR" or girlfriend material. Like they don't have a car, or live at home still. So my intention switches to just sex. Anyways, in some cases I am still pulling these young, beautiful women. I took home a 9 who I went to highschool with just the other night and she returned for 3 days and broke up with her boyfriend! WTF?! But, I guess I have been with so many women now that I am in a weird state. Like with this girl, it was very natural and easy. She just liked me right off the bat. I tend to get bored with that and gravitate towards the challenge. Yet, at the same time, what I am hitting lately is more confusing than it is a challenge because I am not used to girls rejecting me. You nailed it when you said it must be something very small. Perhaps I am pushing too hard on these targets. After all, since they already expect me to be the player in the group, maybe I need to play it real cool and passive. Thanks again man.