Hi guys I have read some forum posts and I think you guys can help me with a question . Sorry about my english
I got out twice with a girl I was interested in...the first time we went to a movie and then had dinner ( KC for almost the entire date ) . The second time 2 unforeseen occurred on the same night then we had to go to the movies again, and the meeting was much like the first. During these meetings she gave me all indicators of interest and she has adopted a posture as if we were already a couple ( we talk a lot by text )... So far no problem because I really like her and I 'm interested in a more serious relationship with her. My problem is that during the meetings despite the KC she does not let me progress with kino even in the movies , always gently receding when I try to touch your legs, belly,etc in a more sexual way . I am confused about it . Then I am in a point where I would like to establish a serious relationship with her but I think its odd to make that request before going to FC. What do you think about it? I want an advice and if possible suggestions of material to read or see to solve this problem ( going to FC after already established the confort and KC).

Thanks guys

Public place... not letting you touch her up... Do you really need an answer to this? She's uncomfortable with being felt up in public.

Change the location of your next date. Do something more interesting and active where you can have a chance to be alone.

Sure I thought about this...but most girls I date does not seems to consider movies like a public place because the place usually have like 10-12 people and is realy dark lol. Anyway I was thinking about going to a club in the third date ( first I would say that I forgot something in my house so she can get more confortable with the enviroment) and later in the night try to lead her there. What do you think? Any other option?

Don't worry about a relationship yet... worry about building attraction. The movies is tough because you really can't communicate with each other in the movies. Neither can you do that in the club. I'd take her out for a drink, dinner, lunch or coffee... where you can sit down and flirt with her.

Then you'll be able to reach over and hold her hands at the right moment to initiate some physical contact without directly having to feel her up too soon.

Also I would tell her to meet you at your house, let her come in for only a few seconds and then take her to lunch/dinner/coffee etc. Afterwards you would be driving her home... you wouldn't have already initiated some type of physical contact during your "date"... and you can close in for the kiss in the car and possibly invite her over to watch a movie.

When you first invited her to take a step in her house and then quickly taking her on the date without giving her a chance to get a tour of the house... it'll leave her more comfortable with coming into your house with you when you take her back,

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That is my plan ( I will make sure she already went to my house before trying to lead her there later)... but I think I was not clear about something... We were talking by text for like 20 days, I KC her in the first date with like 30 minutes of interaction...... In the second date I KC her immediately after she entered my car and during the movies, in the mall, in the restaurant, in the street etc... So I think I already builded confort and atraction, and like I said its hard to explain but she already adopt a posture like we are couples ( And I'm not saying this because this is what I want) . My problem like I said is that I think its odd to initiate a relationship before FC and she does not allow me to escalate further while I KC her. So I already set up the third date to a bar with live music near my house... my doubt now is: This is a much more public place so I probably wont even try to escalate further ( I mean tits, ass, etc) during the KC, do you think is ok to try to lead her even if I do not try to escalate (or if she does not allow me to escalate) in this more sexual way? How I suppose to do? "Lets go to someplace else? What can I say if she ask me where are we going or what we gonna do?

Sorry If the text is too long but I am really confused...I do not know if she wants to make sure that we are in a relationship before we FC or if I am overthinking this and did not FC yet because I did not try to lead her to a private place

Thanks for the help

Good for you! You're much further than I thought.

You know a lot of girls have this 3 date rule where they have to go on 3 dates before having sex so they don't seem like sluts? You may want to test her on that!

You can make the bar work... in fact it could be the perfect scenario. If it's too loud you can get closer to her and talk into her ear, the drinks will loosen you both up a lil bit (just don't get sloppy drunk and try to prevent her from doing the same).

I don't see her why you can't invite her back to her place after the bar. Once you get her at your place.. she's tipsy... you can joke "omg look at you you're stumbling all over the place I can't let you drive tonight!!!" Make out with her as usual and take it to the next level. Use push/pull techniques where you kiss her and touch her in a certain area then pull back and stop for a brief moment to tease her.

Then keep working on your way down. If she stops you (like if you try to take her pants off and she grabs your hand to stop) don't let it faze you.... pull back for a moment and do some more foreplay then give it another try after a few minutes. Of course if she ultimately says no give her the respect and fall back... If you do this chances are you can escalate it even further later on... but I think you'll go far when you're in private. (at least further than you're going)

Don't worry about the whole relationship thing, attraction only matters. Try to escalate it as much as you can... always see how far you can go... just don't force her.

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She's just being a girl man. I wouldn't read into this and I wouldn't suggest you thinking about an LTR with the girl until you at least bang her. Take it one day at a time; who knows how you'll feel about her after you have sex with her.

Just keep doing what you're doing; and keep pushing for kino.. She'll let up more and more as time goes on. She just doesn't want to come off like slut.

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Thanks for the advices, I only stayed with 2 doubts yet....Like I said I am planning to just say " Lets go to someplace else" but If she ask me where we are going I can be just direct and say "to my place" ? And if she ask me what we gonna do? I always think that some excuses options that I saw/use are really bad like "show you some pictures, music, eat. Do you have a better excuse that I can give?

Thanks again

This is a life tip.. Whenever you don't know how to answer a question properly just ball it up and throw it right back at the person who asked it. 9 times out of 10, we ask questions that we want to answer ourselves..

Your response:" What do people usually do when they go to each others houses? "

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Ok thanks guys. I will do my best this saturday ^^