First of all: I'm 19 and I never even kissed a girl. However, a co-worker, HB8, asked me for a date a couple weeks ago. A little kino (same at work), but that's about it. Last week we had a party with the company. I got real drunk, she got drunk, but we talked for quite a long time (but I can't remember about what). Anyway, she put her number in my cellphone at own initiative (as I found out the next morning). We were texting eachother for about the whole evening (because I only see her in the weekends, my job is part time).

This was all before I discovered PUA, which I read about a lot the last couple of days. So I probably did a lot of things wrong.

She added me on facebook yesterday and today she started to text me again.
Unfortunatly, it ended up with her texting she has a boyfriend.

What's to do best now and more important, what did I do wrong?

Up.

Maybe some important info aswell: As I later found out, she broke up with her ex-boyfriend two weeks before she asked me for a date. In the meantime she was dating some other dude (who was following her around like a dog and was visibly in love with her) who know is her boyfriend, I guess. I say "I guess" because I can't quite tell how serious it is, her handing me her number and stuff like that.

First of all dont shit where you eat. (Dont do co-workers!)
Second she just took you for an rebound.
Third n-e-x-t

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Look, lets get this into perspective shall we?

Firstly she asked you for a date and secondly she gave you her phone number - there are basically no bigger IOIs unless she was to actually suggest going to the nearest closet.

Fact of the matter is she obviously is interested. End of. She'll have been thinking about you and weighing up the pros and cons against this new guy. Thats good.

This means that;
1. You're an attractive guy who HBs are interested in.
2. She sees you as a viable alternative.

Either take this knowledge and go find another girl (you can do it - its already been prven that girls are interested)

Or i guess you could wait it out. Clingy guys can be easily ousted through being more fun, less clingy and performing a bit of push-pull on the girl.

But beware of the latter tactic - one-itis is a bitch when you havent kissed a girl. This girl may seem special and your one hope of the perfect gf but she's not.

Put yourself out there dude - theres a lot of good material here for getting all manner of girls.

Harem x

I've already had one-itis with another girl before (as I know now in retrospect), which is making me careful for it this time.

I still have a few questions though:

- Am I ruining my chances with her if I manage to make out with other girls (for who I have no further interest in) and she's knowing of it?
I'm asking this because a few weeks ago I went going out with male co-workers who set up a bet for me in which I had to kiss a girl. Due to circumstances (we didn't really go out) the bet was off, but she found out about the bet, which might even triggered her interest in me (I am absolutly not sure of this though).

- A while ago I managed to hear a small conversation between her and another female co-worker. The latter asked her: "so I hear you have a new boyfriend?"
and was asking for confirmation if it was the guy she was thinking of.
She respond with a yes, but made a little joke about it aswell, maybe about him being somewhat clingy, but I didn't heard/recall that very well. It definitly wasn't a full blown "yes, and it's a wonderful guy aswell". Is this a good sign (for me of course), or of no meaning?

- How should I deal with her having a boyfriend? Ignore it, make jokes about it if she mentions? I see her tomorrow at work by the way, what do I do and don't?

Furthermore I have to say this is excellent info, thanks.

dude, just game her.

and game every attractive girl you see.

Harden the fuck up

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First off KristallNachte don't be a bellend. 'Harden the fuck up and game her?'. That is not constructive advice. We're all learning here - thats why he asked the question.

In response to your questions about ruining your chances i'd say almost definately not. In fact it might even improve them. Shes with a guy so you can be with girls. In fact being with girls and acting like you're having a whale of a time while she's stuck with the clingy bf might be the catalyst she needs to commit to you emotionally.

I wouldn't read too much into the convo - she may just have been in a non-sharing mood or generally shy. Although its definately better than the alternative big yes you were talking about.

NEVER mention the bf - act like he doesnt exist. Trust me - even jokey comments will suggest to her that you are jealous. Which is the opposite of what we are going for here. Remember to seem like the prize - general advice i know but i've found it to be sound.

You seem like a good guy - you just need to come across not needy and like you have your shit together regarding women. If she sees this then something definately could happen.

Harem x

I answered it.

He shouldn't be worrying about this shit at all. Just DO.

hence "harden the fuck up"

much like Chief's "stop being a pussy"

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Im going to toss out something I learned a long time ago. I am a beginner in the PUA area... as I have decided that I am after HB8+ and nothing less... which has brought my game to a hault.

I have learned one thing... Im single... she might be single, might have a boyfriend, might be married... whatever... It doesnt matter... dont feel bad if you hook up with her... game her as if it doesnt matter... because it doesnt. If a woman is "committed" and is willing to cheat... she is going to do it... you cant stop her, so it might as well be with you. Im out to get mine... I dont give a damn if shes married or not... those are not my decisions to evaluate... they are hers.

Game her, and if she is seriously interested in this guy... and you dont get anywhere... consider it practice for the hotter one you will come across tomorrow.

I have a feeling I'll be seeing you on season 3 of VH1's Tool Academy.

Im singly my friend. That is my choice. If I was dating someone... that would be different. I have morals, and wouldnt cheat on my SO. I choose to be single for the fact I am not done "having fun" yet.

No, let's get real. If you had morals, it wouldn't matter if a married woman is willing to cheat with you. You sure as hell wouldn't be the one committing adultry with her.

Now feed me some excuse, wise crack, alpha male reply about why it doesn't matter or why it's her fault.

It takes 2 to tango. Welcome to the real world.

It does take 2 to tango... and I am 1. I am out there to tango, and AVAILABLE to tango. If she makes herself available... that is not my problem... thats hers. Thats what I am there for... to hook up.

Your trying to blame the casino for taking your money, when you walked in there and put it on the table. Im the casino... I am there to do one thing... its her decision to sit down and play. Even if your $500K in debt and cant pay your bills isnt going to stop them from taking your money if you make it available. Just like if shes hot and willing, isnt going to stop me from taking her to the house if she makes it available. Welcome to the real world.

You've already said this. I was calling you out on you claiming you have morals. You're clearly just proving my observation correct about you lacking morals.

I hope you don't ever get married, and feel true love. Because there's someone just like you out there, who is going to try their best to take advantage of the one you love. And when that day comes, you surely won't be willing to just brush it off and blame your wife/girlfriend.

I wont pick one who makes herself available to be taken advantage of. Its not taking advantage of anything when she makes it available.

You cant take advantage of something or someone who is not willing. Thats called rape my friend. If shes willing... how am I taking advantage of her? Thats like trying to get mad at a bar for doing 2 for one drinks and feeling bad because you get one for free. They made it available and you took it.

And your right... I wont brush it off and blame my wife or girlfriend if she cheats on me... I will blame myself for choosing to be comitted to her. We all choose our own paths in life... and if she is going to cheat... she is going to cheat. Its up to us to pick a girl who wont.