Im new to the PUA forum but i have been doing it for over a year now and found it works. I have been getting pretty girls and average girls but i have been having difficulties getting that super hot one. I have many friends who are married or in committed relationships who have no game and aren't very good looking and have gorgeous gf's/wives. They try giving me advice but its AFC bullshit and doesn't work. The difference i did find was that they all make over 100-150g a year lol. Not saying all girls go for money but there are a lot of sexy ones who do.

In saying that, most of my friends are married or in one-itis relationships. I dont have many friends that go out with me that are looking to pickup or wing for me. For the ones that do, they revert to their ways of picking up and ignore the advice i give them (ie. start talking about how awsome they think they are, lie about how much they make or what they do for a living). Opening a set and having a wing to come in and keep the convo fun and interesting for everyone is pretty vital in what i've noticed because i have seen my "bad pick up tactic" buddies ruin it all, make her friend uncomfortable and grab the girl im talking with to the bathroom and sometimes out of the club lol. Than buddy will start whining AFC shit to me as though its cause he doesnt make a million dollars a year or she was a bitch, blah blah blah.

I have a friend who is pretty good at picking up women and we open sets around the bar than leave and join each others group and work the bar. Its a lot of fun and we are usually pretty successful. The only problem is im getting picky. I am tierd of getting 6-7.2s in the bar because my friend is too afraid to go after the 9s with me cause they are a lot of work and we are gonna get rejected and our night will be ruined. He makes a good point, not gonna lie. You need a lot of rapport with really pretty girls and there is a good chance it isnt going to go anywhere. Im willing to take that risk if it means i might end up with a super hot babe!

So i thought, well if he doesnt wanna try with me than ill go at it myself. So i went sarging alone and found its pretty tough. Learnt you shouldnt be in the bar for more than 2 hrs because the girls figure you out pretty quick. Telling her you are waiting for your friend to show doesnt last long. I have been successful in picking up by myself, including number and full close so im not worried about that. My issue is the way 9s go to the bar.

Im from a decent sized city in saskatchewan and there are a lot of fat chicks here. I thought it was just me but turns out there is an issue with saskatchewans obesity in canada. So when i find a hot babe at the bar, there is at least 2 fat chicks on the outside and a couple 7's and MAYBE another 9. its almost like she brought out an offensive line to protect her or maybe the fat ones wanna leech off the 9s rejections. At any rate, i need to somehow get past them without a proper wing in order to get to her. If i somehow get to a good convo with her, one of her friends gets jealous and takes her to the bathroom, usually one of the fat ones who was eye eating me lol. This isnt always the case though, most of the time the group of girls just start whispering shit in her ear as soon as i start talking to her than she ignores me, im always polite about it though, i dont go all AFC.

My buddies know how persistent i am, their advice is, dont worry buds, you'll get a 9 it just happens by luck. I dont really beleive that. So i was wondering how to i go about doing it. I came up with a few ideas but they arent surefire and i would like to hear everyone elses opinions. Here are mine;

1. Become a bartender or bouncer at a bar, hot chicks will notice me more

2. Try to meet hot girls from friends gf/ friends friend (tried but not always solid cause they feel uncomfortable being setup)

3. Work on daygame and try to find hot girls during the day, that way they know you havent been drinking and they dont have their lineman with her

4. Go on POF (wasnt my idea, it was my buddies and i dont like it cause they are usually batshit crazy or on drugs or both)

Not gonna go too much into number 4 cause ive had some really funny stories from there and the girls i did get with usually get clingy and crazy.

Would like to hear back from guys who have gotten 9s before, i really dont need dribble from guys who have trouble getting 5s or fatties. If im being offensive to women in this im not intending to, i love being with women which is why im even posting on here.

day game is the best!
its not very often hb 9's get hit on during the day " directly"

Never actually picked up a solid 9 at a bar. I met one of my ex's at a club I was working at. But I actually picked her up through facebook. I've dated and slept with a number of bomb shells. But like was said above it was through chance and day game. Most I met through a friend or out doing my jwn thing not even trying to game. Just right place right time.

A lot of guys on here say this, they can get 8's and under no worries, but 9's and 10's they are stumped. The problem is with below 8's they have proven themselves they can do it so they have BELIEF, but above 8's they dont have a history so belief is gone.

I've half fall into this catagory, but i have picked up some 9's and I gamed them almost the same as any other girl, but at the time i had BELIEF that I could get a 9.

If you can consistently get 7 and 8's, you can get 9's, its justva matter of BELIEVING you can.

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I have picked up a 9 through legit daygame on the beach. This was the most beautiful girl I've ever picked up.

She told me she doesn't get approached except clubs.

I would say that to pick up hot girls in clubs is very difficult and ineffective. So daygame.

Your friends probably has legit girlfriends because they have their shit together. They have goals, nice job, career etc. Which is the foundation of a long term relationship.

Although picking up girls just to fuck them these things don't matter that much.

I would say all girls are the same. Probably the pretty ones are easier during daygame because they are funnier and have more self esteem etc.

Beaches are a good place to sarge. Not talked about much on here though.

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