Guys, how do I actually start talking to cute girls in the bar? I just don't know what the fuck to say... I can't hook them at all.

I was out earlier. And there was the hottest girl in the club, some blonde girl, so I was trying to find some way to strike up conversation... So I saw she had an LV bag and I commented on that ('cause they're worth a fortune) asked her if it's real... Just to try and strike up an interaction... I found it hard to hear her response, but I think she said it's real, and her friend had one too and showed me the label, so I said something about how rich they must be... I don't know...

But it just didn't stick.

Or sometimes I just don't know what to say at all so I end up saying something stupid like "Hi you okay?" (I'm not the only one guilty of that at least) or something pathetic like playfully saying she's a good dancer. I'm not really ugly or anything... And I can easily hook old ladies and fatties, but then when it comes to the girls I actually want they are unresponsive.

Also kind of random: Why is it that when I first walk into a bar, cute girls I find attractive make eye contact with me and smile... But then later on in the night (and I'm usually reaaaally in the party mood, animated, extroverted... Not a wallflower) girls ignore me or are completely unresponsive.

Go read some books, 60 Years of Challenge or something, or watch some videos.

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Dude, go out more. Talk to more people. You went to the hottest girl you could find and started talking about her purse......................... For starters, It's hard to transition to a normal conversation. Second, that's pretty lame that you would make a b-line towards a stunner to talk about her fucking purse. Where as you stuck on the purse... I would have said something like "You're really shy, aren't you?" or whatever else came to my mind, after I noticed the girl was being super quiet.

As I said... Go out more. Start to pay attention to whats going on around you. Don't over complicate things.

Yeah, I could tell it was a bad thing to say. I have actually been going out very regularly for about a year to two years... I can usually pick up fuck ugly girls, but I'm not ugly so I shouldn't be talking to ugly girls. Plus that's not really what I want obviously, I desire girls I am actually attracted to.

It's like the hot girls won't really make eye contact with me (though some do when I first walk in early in the night) they just stick in their little circles with their friends avoiding outside contact... Except with bouncers, 'cause all girls want bouncers.

Opening is about delivery. Also, stop worrying about transitions. One of the biggest conversational dating flaws men have is worrying too much about transitions. Stop worrying about it. You went up and talked to her by bringing up her bag, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT HER FREAKIN BAG ALL NIGHT!!

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You are not succeeding because you are not doing it fully. When you open open fully, have a fucking conversation, keep her attention, aim to talk to her for a good half an hour and see how far you get. Get physical, be intentful, fucking go for it.

You asked if her bag was real i'm guessing to sound interested in her and not as a neg... That was stupid.

Here's how you start a conversation: "You look lost. Are you looking for your friends?" Or even "Hi, what's your name?"

A great way to get over AA is to always assume a woman wants you when you approach. After the approach you have a certain amount of "points". You never gain points, you just lose them so the aim of the game is not to lose points but to keep what you have. How do you do this? Don't over invest, be yourself, talk and be confident. Simple. If you do it right she'll start looking for excuses to keep you around.

Here's some handy tips for when you definitely can 100% approach someone.

1. Being sober. Yes, being sober is probably the best way indication that you can approach a woman. Believe it or not women find drunk men -- yes in bars and drinking areas -- a huge turn off!!
2. Proximity. You're standing outside, smoking and a cute girl walks up beside you and starts playing with her phone. Proximity. If she's near you or moves near you she's open to talking to you. Think about it: She moved beside you for a reason. She wants your dick or she sees you as someone she can be comfortable around and not threatened by.
3. Be fun. Just be fun, smile and randomly go up to a girl or group of girls and say they look interesting(Different dynamic, it's a group of women so they're not going to be threatened by you as they would be on an individual level).