Hi,

I will preface this by stating that this is not some kind of rip on the PUA community. I have known about and practiced PUA methods myself since the mid-1990s with the Ross Jeffries material. It is a serious question.

I'm interested in methods of douchebaggery for use on recalcitrant women.

There are already many of these tactics already in the manual (negging, not calling, not answering calls, etc) but I am looking for more. Especially sneaky tactics that women haven't encountered before and therefore have not immunized themselves against. These are punishment methods to be applied to women who are recalcitrant or otherwise avoid giving up the pussy.

I am a firm believer in the idea that women only respect men with a firm (but not cruel) pimp hand. Everything I have ever seen bears this out and as society changes it seems to be getting more true instead of less.

Please discuss. I may not contribute much to the thread but I am interested in seeing what people have to say.

BTW, as you may imagine, as someone who would even ask this question I am someone who already knows more than a little bit about douchebaggery. I am interested in improving my skills.

i6r

Facepalm

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Look, I am a douchebag. But I'm looking for ways of becoming an even greater and more subtly manipulative douchebag.

I didn't used to be a douchebag. But I have noticed that even with various NLP and PUA, douchebag behavior often destroys resistance better than anything else and gets women eating out of your hand. So I became a douchebag, and it improved my midgame success rate dramatically, night and day difference. It isn't for early game, when you need to be charming, c/f, etc.

The bottom line is, douchebags who know nothing about PUA very often get the girl. The reason is plain as day.

It is because they are douchebags. Because of human nature, douchebag behavior is seductive in and of itself.

Can it work, yeah. Is it ideal? Absolutely not.

And I'm saying this because anything on this site from a reputable source that can be read as being a douche is meant specifically for women who think they are God's gift to the world. That's it, and that is a very small % of women in all reality. The reason I'm saying this is that, by only choosing to act in the extreme, you'll scare off a lot of women who are genuine, compassionate, and caring who will just think you're mean and walk away.

I know, not answering the question, but the real number of times you may want to act like this and get results is so small I just wanted to make sure you were aware.

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These hos ain't loyal

In other words 97% of them.

I do agree that it's not ideal and I am being partly facetious but not entirely. I think it's important to have things like this in the bag of tricks when needed.

Ideally perhaps the best thing to do with women who require that sort of SPAM is just to next them immediately, but the problem is there are so many of them and you need to get some sort of control in the relationship or they will ride roughshod all over you.

Just set the rules early if you are talking about relationship. For example, i make it very clear that I do not clean anything under any circumstances and do not tolerate people being late etc. I just make this type of stuff clear early. If you are talking about seduction, then you are an idiot if you think being a douchebag helps your game .. really good looking alpha men get girls DESPITE sometimes acting like douchebags, not because of it.

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If she doesn't give you pussy, be an asshole. Pull her hair, put her down on her knees, spit on her face, call her a bitch, put all kind of things in her ass, strangle her. It shoud be easy. Don't be an AFC.

Not into choking.

you know he was kidding .. i hope...

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I do realize that but he's describing a lot of girls I've dated.

Ever have a girl get mad at you because you won't choke her until she's almost passing out?

Your perception of women and humanity in general is so wrong and jaded.

Lol.....wtf is going on here.

There's a big difference in playing hard to get and being a douche...

Sounds like op is frustrated.

Why would u want to be a total douche?

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Dude, some (most) women don't like douchebags. Be genuine.

Why do you need help with that? Are you fucking retarded?

That's how.

Anyway, agree with the 2 previous posts. For my experience being a douchebag is of very little use. I mean, I tried it when I was starting and it was the fastest way to scare a girl away. Maybe it's just not my thing, but for me it only worked twice and with questionable results.