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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:01 am 
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I live on the westcoast where (for lackof a better word) "racism" is less agressive.

but its been weird for me since I started pickup. I feel like im still hit or miss and havent improved at all. then one of my female friends tells me me pickup girls.on the street is weird. when we met she never expected a black guy to be flirting with her on her way to the store.

and it got me thinking.What role does race play -if any - in pickup.

should I use more "black guy" techniques? has any


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:19 am 
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Take this from another brother thats considered very handsome, and whos went to college in KNOXVILLE TN, where racism is a factor. 90% of my bangs are from outside of my race, and Ive found that if they give you that eye contact its on and poppin playa, Attraction is attraction, we are all humans.
That being said, there are some chicks who were brought up not being around different races and are uncomfortable with black men. Due to upbringing or their friends, they wont mess with you even if they think your sexy as hell. Catch is, you gotta try catching them in daygame alone, then you can be their Fbuddy on the sneak tip.
Honestly I feel MOST chicks are attracted to a strong male no matter the race, but alot are not used to dealing with people outside of their race, so they might be attracted but never been in a situation where a fly brother hollas at them. Just keep it cool, intellectual, and they'll be intrigued, trust me.


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Answer is simple...it's an issue if you make it is. All in your head.

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I often wonder how my race affects my first impressions. I'm half indian (Mom's from India) and half white. This give me a slightly dark complexion, but its difficult for most people to figure out my ethnicity from my looks alone.
Since there is a large hispanic population where I live many people assume that I'm Mexican. As a result I get asked about my heritage often.

Any ideas on the best way to handle that question?
What would be some good snarky responses for when I get asked about my race?

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Considering how much race still matters in other things like the business world etc. even in the most tolerant countries in the world.., im afraid that the answer is yes, it also matters in pickups to some extend.


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A question I struggled with for years of my life since people tend to stereotype men of my race as being unattractive, sleazy, and everything.

I finally found that, well, there is no answer to this question because so much of what we say as people doesn't matter when it comes to racial preferences. A girl might say she hates Asian men and won't ever date one because she hasn't seen that many good looking Asian guys but bring someone like Squattin Casanova or ViperGQ up to her and see how her preferences change.

If you want White girls, then understand that not even average looking White guys are getting the hot White girls because well, they are average looking.

The reason this is so hard to answer is because a woman's preferences change over time and sometimes even a matter of days. One day she might love Asian guys, the next day she doesn't.

So my advice to you is

1. look your best
2. be confident
3. approach a girl if you like her
4. accept that rejection will come
5. just do it

other factors like location can improve your results but if you have it then you should be able to excel just about anywhere

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A question I struggled with for years of my life since people tend to stereotype men of my race as being unattractive, sleazy, and everything.

I finally found that, well, there is no answer to this question because so much of what we say as people doesn't matter when it comes to racial preferences. A girl might say she hates Asian men and won't ever date one because she hasn't seen that many good looking Asian guys but bring someone like Squattin Casanova or ViperGQ up to her and see how her preferences change.

If you want White girls, then understand that not even average looking White guys are getting the hot White girls because well, they are average looking.

The reason this is so hard to answer is because a woman's preferences change over time and sometimes even a matter of days. One day she might love Asian guys, the next day she doesn't.

So my advice to you is

1. look your best
2. be confident
3. approach a girl if you like her
4. accept that rejection will come
5. just do it

other factors like location can improve your results but if you have it then you should be able to excel just about anywhere
Does it ever work in the reverse? I mean an Asian girl who doesn't like white guys might change her mind?


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The general answer to all these questions of Does X matter is the following:

Yes, it matters, but not nearly as much as you think.

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We could start discussing science here if you like. Things like evolution and how it has shaped the human mind, if you believe in that. It can become really complex actually.

For instance, racism can be described as an inherent mechanism made to protect genes, since people who look the same share more genes than people of different races. Mating with someone similar will make a new individual with the same genome, ensuring the survival of the genes. On the other hand, this "strategy" increases the risk of inbreeding. So we have another inherent strategy - to be attracted by what we find exotic in order to introduce new genes to the genepool. Both these strategies are in conflict - one example among many why we are such complex beings.

So to answer your question whether race matters - yes it does. But the pros and cons probably balance each other out. And it depends on the mentality and culture of people where you are. You will find women who will dislike you just from your looks, and you will find those who are attracted to you for the same reason.


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There are some girls out there that simply wont fuck a black man no matter what. This group of women is VERY small.

There are other women (of all races) who prefer black men over every other race. This group is bigger than the first one.

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There are some girls out there that simply wont fuck a black man no matter what. This group of women is VERY small.

There are other women (of all races) who prefer black men over every other race. This group is bigger than the first one.

Stop worrying.
What about Asian girls that wont fuck white guys? There are fewer wm/af couples every year with kpop and all that.


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I didn't even notice OP was Black, isn't being Black supposed to be a major advantage when going after girls of other races? especially the ones who are white

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If you want White girls, then understand that not even average looking White guys are getting the hot White girls because well, they are average looking.
Not true. these so called average white guys have no game. this is why they arent getting hot white girls.

Dude...im 29, Sri Lankan and prior to taking up PUA about three years ago, i had a Very Narrow way at looking at these things. i used to walk down the street and see guys rolling with 9s and 8's and think all sorts of shit to myself. "He's white", "hes good looking", "hes tall" or "got money" i have no hope in hell. then one day i decided to change shit. mainly my head. thank fuck i've got a pretty banging body and i got a good sense of style, this year alone i managed to pull at least 20+ girls, and a majority above 7. and all white.

so seriously. this is only a problem if you let it be one.

be fucking confident and outcome independent, sort out your body-language, banter, then approach like a champ

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