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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:55 pm 
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Okay guys i need some bad ass PUA help and motivation.
I know its a lot to read but you could really help me out with some advice.

So here is the situation: There is this girl, she knows that i want her (relationship) but she never had the same feelings. That seemed to change the past few weeks. She invited me to her new first apartment to hang out. We where alone... All i was able to do was put my arm around her and pull her closer to me while watching TV. I knew she was expecting something but i didnt do shit.
After telling her that i realized that i did a mistake by not doing anything last time i said that i want to change and stop being so shy. She was happy and invited me again. So i visited her again. Same situation: Just watching TV cuddling a little bit. No kiss now heavy kino nothing. I felt so fucking bad when i left and saw her disappointed face.
It was crazy as hell... We where standing in her dark apartment (it was night and no lights where on because we where watching TV before) right in front of her bed, she looks me in the eyes, plays with her hair, turns around looks at her bed, turns back to me and looks me in the eyes again...What did i do? Yeah you probably guessed it...I ran away like a little bitch because i was so fucking exited i could do SHIT!! (Yeah i never kissed a girl so obviously virgin as well...)

Anyways... I knew i screwed. The only thing i wanted for over a fucking year was possible now i only had to take it!! Was it because i could handle the final success after working my ass of for this girl or just because im an unexperienced pussy? I dont know...

After that day she got a little colder. Obviously... She still texts me back we still text every day. I see her everyday at work and she is still very friendly and nice as usual. But things like sending me kiss and heart smilies like she did before...no. I actually told her that i am sorry for not doing shit and that i still have those feelings for her and that i want her so bad but for some reason i cant make the first step.
Yesterday i was able to arrange a new date with her! I asked if we could do something together and maybe go back to her place after that and she said "Sure, we can do that".

So what now? Like i said i realized that she got a little bit colder. Do you think i should just kino her as usual (we actually had some nice kino before!) and act like this whole story never happened or should i start a bit more distanced and see how she reacts when we´re out? Do you think her agreeing to another "date" is some sort of "permission" to try it one more time or do you think its just her being nice, and seeing this as a meeting between "friends"? (i mean she knows how i feel so that would be kind of stupid) If so how should i escalate to a KISS (finally!!) Im tired of feeling bad and sorry! I finally want the fucking balls to at least kiss this girl. But im a bit insecure after that last date with her... Throw it at me guys!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:03 pm 
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You are just gonna have to man the fuck up.

Or

Pay a little visit to the massage parlour and just get it out of the way then hopefully you will have the balls to seal the deal

Fuck the whole "losing it to someone special" that is probably reason you are still a Virgin.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:12 pm 
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Wait.. you've never kissed a girl before?

If this chick has her own apartment she's obviously mature enough to know what to expect. Does she know you're a virgin and never kissed a girl before?

Honestly, it's a weird situation. You've zero experience except for what you've watched in a porno and that's not saying much. I would suggest looking up techniques, how to properly kiss a woman(Very important), how to do oral, finger a chick and generally know about teasing in foreplay. Sex... Well sex is just natural, you find your way eventually and you need a base of experience before you can start the more adventurous stuff. Don't worry too much about the sex right now, just about getting it. After you've done it and feel comfortable start looking into more exciting stuff.

Also, the way you talk it's as if she's full on for expecting something from you. You didn't kiss her or anything. You told her you wanted to and were sorry for not doing it and she was fine with that only to invite you over to hers again? Honestly, if it's that obvious where she's all but saying "I want this now!" then you need to grow a pair and seize the opportunity. That or just make her kiss you and get it over with! You obviously aren't making things sexual if she can't turn around and kiss you.

Here's what you do: Get close, arm around her, caress her while you're watching TV(Start brushing her shoulder with your hand very lightly). She should respond to this and start getting closer, looking towards you. After that just grab her hand with your free hand make her put her arm around your shoulder as if going to kiss you. Then just kiss her and use your free hand to feel her body. You have to do it with a bit of finesse. Be deliberate but slow and work your way slowly but surely towards other things. If she's into you she'll get into it herself and start moving things the direction she wants it to go.

Otherwise you've just got to man up and kiss the girl. Forget about the barriers just break through them. You're in control.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:22 pm 
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good advice GamesSN but i think he probably knows about a million kiss close/ escataion routines already..

His problem is that he is crippled with fear of pulling the trigger since the fact is, he never done it before.

JT Qatar- You could always just be honest and tell her you don't know what to do and that you might need a little help since its your 1st time etc.

(fuck trying to be alpha right now, you have already compromized that already)

Some alcohol might help you too, just don't get whiskey dick.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:04 pm 
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JT Qatar- You could always just be honest and tell her you don't know what to do and that you might need a little help since its your 1st time etc.

(fuck trying to be alpha right now, you have already compromized that already)
Indeed, i like this advice as well.

Ironically enough, it takes a man to admit that you arent a man yet ;-).

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JT Qatar- You could always just be honest and tell her you don't know what to do and that you might need a little help since its your 1st time etc.

(fuck trying to be alpha right now, you have already compromized that already)
Indeed, i like this advice as well.

Ironically enough, it takes a man to admit that you arent a man yet ;-).
Touche, nicely put.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:20 pm 
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Here is what you need to hear: JUST GO FOR THE KISS NEXT TIME. Period. Just go for it. Don't think, don't worry if you don't know how whatever, just DO IT.
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Okay guys i need some bad ass PUA help and motivation.
I know its a lot to read but you could really help me out with some advice.

So here is the situation: There is this girl, she knows that i want her (relationship) but she never had the same feelings. That seemed to change the past few weeks. She invited me to her new first apartment to hang out. We where alone... All i was able to do was put my arm around her and pull her closer to me while watching TV. I knew she was expecting something but i didnt do shit.
After telling her that i realized that i did a mistake by not doing anything last time i said that i want to change and stop being so shy. She was happy and invited me again. So i visited her again. Same situation: Just watching TV cuddling a little bit. No kiss now heavy kino nothing. I felt so fucking bad when i left and saw her disappointed face.
It was crazy as hell... We where standing in her dark apartment (it was night and no lights where on because we where watching TV before) right in front of her bed, she looks me in the eyes, plays with her hair, turns around looks at her bed, turns back to me and looks me in the eyes again...What did i do? Yeah you probably guessed it...I ran away like a little bitch because i was so fucking exited i could do SHIT!! (Yeah i never kissed a girl so obviously virgin as well...)

Anyways... I knew i screwed. The only thing i wanted for over a fucking year was possible now i only had to take it!! Was it because i could handle the final success after working my ass of for this girl or just because im an unexperienced pussy? I dont know...

After that day she got a little colder. Obviously... She still texts me back we still text every day. I see her everyday at work and she is still very friendly and nice as usual. But things like sending me kiss and heart smilies like she did before...no. I actually told her that i am sorry for not doing shit and that i still have those feelings for her and that i want her so bad but for some reason i cant make the first step.
Yesterday i was able to arrange a new date with her! I asked if we could do something together and maybe go back to her place after that and she said "Sure, we can do that".

So what now? Like i said i realized that she got a little bit colder. Do you think i should just kino her as usual (we actually had some nice kino before!) and act like this whole story never happened or should i start a bit more distanced and see how she reacts when we´re out? Do you think her agreeing to another "date" is some sort of "permission" to try it one more time or do you think its just her being nice, and seeing this as a meeting between "friends"? (i mean she knows how i feel so that would be kind of stupid) If so how should i escalate to a KISS (finally!!) Im tired of feeling bad and sorry! I finally want the fucking balls to at least kiss this girl. But im a bit insecure after that last date with her... Throw it at me guys!

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JT Qatar- You could always just be honest and tell her you don't know what to do and that you might need a little help since its your 1st time etc.

(fuck trying to be alpha right now, you have already compromized that already)
Indeed, i like this advice as well.

Ironically enough, it takes a man to admit that you arent a man yet ;-).
Touche, nicely put.
That was awesome! I was looking at it from a whole different perspective. Im worried that telling her all that will make me look like a fool to be honest (i mean which girl wants to hear that?...) but this really inspired me! Thanks!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:41 pm 
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Girls get turned on when they meet a virgin. (children not included)

infact

you may as well tell all of your future conquests that you're a virgin! can be your routine ;)

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Girls get turned on when they meet a virgin
Wow cant believe that! :D So my biggest shame could be my biggest advantage at the same time?... But still...I guess its quite understandable that im not really proud or willing to tell her that anyways...


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Okay guys i need some bad ass PUA help and motivation.
I know its a lot to read but you could really help me out with some advice.

So here is the situation: There is this girl, she knows that i want her (relationship) but she never had the same feelings. That seemed to change the past few weeks. She invited me to her new first apartment to hang out. We where alone... All i was able to do was put my arm around her and pull her closer to me while watching TV. I knew she was expecting something but i didnt do shit.
After telling her that i realized that i did a mistake by not doing anything last time i said that i want to change and stop being so shy. She was happy and invited me again. So i visited her again. Same situation: Just watching TV cuddling a little bit. No kiss now heavy kino nothing. I felt so fucking bad when i left and saw her disappointed face.
It was crazy as hell... We where standing in her dark apartment (it was night and no lights where on because we where watching TV before) right in front of her bed, she looks me in the eyes, plays with her hair, turns around looks at her bed, turns back to me and looks me in the eyes again...What did i do? Yeah you probably guessed it...I ran away like a little bitch because i was so fucking exited i could do SHIT!! (Yeah i never kissed a girl so obviously virgin as well...)

Anyways... I knew i screwed. The only thing i wanted for over a fucking year was possible now i only had to take it!! Was it because i could handle the final success after working my ass of for this girl or just because im an unexperienced pussy? I dont know...

After that day she got a little colder. Obviously... She still texts me back we still text every day. I see her everyday at work and she is still very friendly and nice as usual. But things like sending me kiss and heart smilies like she did before...no. I actually told her that i am sorry for not doing shit and that i still have those feelings for her and that i want her so bad but for some reason i cant make the first step.
Yesterday i was able to arrange a new date with her! I asked if we could do something together and maybe go back to her place after that and she said "Sure, we can do that".

So what now? Like i said i realized that she got a little bit colder. Do you think i should just kino her as usual (we actually had some nice kino before!) and act like this whole story never happened or should i start a bit more distanced and see how she reacts when we´re out? Do you think her agreeing to another "date" is some sort of "permission" to try it one more time or do you think its just her being nice, and seeing this as a meeting between "friends"? (i mean she knows how i feel so that would be kind of stupid) If so how should i escalate to a KISS (finally!!) Im tired of feeling bad and sorry! I finally want the fucking balls to at least kiss this girl. But im a bit insecure after that last date with her... Throw it at me guys!
Dude, you are taking things wayyyyy to slow. This girl WANTED you to throw her down on the bed, pin her down, rip her clothes off, and fuck her like an animal. And ya didn't do it...

Now... she's bored. You've gotta realize that girls are HORNY. They LOVE sex. It's fun for them. It feels good for them. This girl wanted to get fucked, needed to get fucked, was begging you to fuck her, and you didn't pull the trigger.

Stop thinking so much about what you "should do" because you are afraid to lose the girl and let your instinct work in your favor. Let out the animal inside of you.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:16 pm 
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If you don't fuck her, I will.

JT - yeah man, a big chunk of girls want to pop cherries, I knew my friend that drove women crazy whn he told them that he is a Virgin and he saving it for someone special. This psychology drives women beserk but my friend just never picked anybody, he would always find a flaw "her nose is a bit weird" etc

He regrets it big time. Cos he still a virgin...Don't let it happen to you.

next time you meet, just kiss her, then kiss the neck and the clothes will melt off automatically.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:58 pm 
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Hey guy. We all had a first time. It's gonna be weird and clumsy. Next time your alone with this women go caveman on her. Don't rape her but don't you dare disappoint her again. Think of it this way. If you don't she's gonna start thinking there is something wrong with her. Do you want that?

The guys might have something with the virgin angle. Never thought of that but these guys are right. Had a buddy in high school that was all about the church thing. He saved it for marriage(and did!). Girls used to go crazy over him. He had tons of girlfriends who he wouldn't sleep with. Most ended up thinking he was a closet homo and dumped him.

Just do it man. Without risk there's no reward. She wants it to.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:26 am 
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Let out the animal inside of you.
Nicely said.
Actually there WAS a situation before where i felt...i dont know like i never did before.
It was actually the first time i visited her at home and even at the first time we had this situation where she was standing in front of her bedroom door, the bed behind her and no lights...
All of a sudden i got this really crazy feeling... It was like somebody else wanted to take control over my body or some sort of magical power i dont know how to explain it better...I never felt something like this before in my life. I just wanted to fucking grab her, rib her cloth off and DO IT. Kinda funny because as you know i never really did that before, but in this moment i just felt it...I was actually shocked about myself a few minutes after that.

Yeah...but to get back to the actual question here :D
Like i said she got colder and a little bit more distanced but i should just treat her and touch her like nothing happened?


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