3 Years of PUA, I'm an AFC.



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:47 am 
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I need help....I need so much help. This is long but please bear with me. I have known PUA for over 3 years now and while I have read a lot of useful information I have never had the guts to go up to a girl and hit on her. Instead I have always played it the safe route and just hit on girls who were acquaintances and who I think already liked me.

But it was all a lie. A lie to myself to make myself feel better, to feel like I have actually accomplished something. Let me start from the beginning...I was a total AFC in high school because of my overprotective Asian parents. I had no friends, I played videogames.

When I first entered college I thought it was a chance to change myself. But the AFC mentality stuck with me, I made friends but I was still a VIRGIN who never kissed a girl. At parties me and my friends would stand around awkwardly, even when my friend starts a group conversation with a girls and included me...it was cause I didn't have the guts to start one myself.

By the end of my freshmen year I wanted to have sex..to feel what a woman's vagina feels like so bad that I couldn't concentrate for my classes. I jerked off at least 5-10 times a day until I compromised my own morals. I went on craigslist and paid a hooker. It wasn't the greatest experience (car sex cause we couldn't do it in the dorms) and she wouldn't let me kiss her because I guess she saves kissing for her personal life. I paid a second time because I was still horny and wanted to reassure myself the first time was real. But I knew I was walking on ice, what I done was illegal and I could have gotten arrested if it was a sting. So I told myself I would never pay another prostitute for sex.

My sophomore year went by without much change. I wasn't as horny anymore because I had finally had sex. By the time I entered Junior year I realized that my college life will be a repeat of my sophomore if I don't do something so I joined a fraternity. Finally chances to talk to women and get to know them were thrown AT MY FEET. On February 18, 2012 at the age of 20 I finally kissed a girl because she came to my place and got drunk enough where we were wrestling around and I thought to myself...fuck it.

She shortly became my first girlfriend, but there were always signs that something was wrong. She would put out ONLY if she wanted to but not when I wanted to. She didn't want PDA at all. We had an on and off relationship with sex every now and then for a year and a half until we finally ended it earlier this summer.

During the off times I kissed 3 girls and fingered 2 of them. 1 told me they liked me outright but she like a hb 4-5 so I only kissed her. The 2nd was hb 6 we kissed and I fingered her cause I also knew she liked me but then I went back to my gf and she got a bf. The 3rd I met at Vegas when one of my frat bros was talking to a chick and I started to talk to her friend, ended going back to my hotel room and we kissed, I fingered...I want to have sex but she wouldn't let me saying she is seeing someone.

So there...all my sexual conquest (can I even call it that) in the last 2 years. When I "got some", I always tell myself it's because of how PUA changed me. That PUA made me a better person so I was able to game. But in reality I was lying to myself, I got lucky and found success off others and claimed it as my own.

There is a 4th girl that I briefly was in a relationship with but we didn't kiss nor have any sexual encounter (it was to piss my first gf off to have sex with me more, it didn't work). But even then, this 4th girl I also knew she liked me and I used her to try and get my first gf jealous.

I am a coward....because I have never been satisfied this whole time. I wanted a girlfriend who wouldn't mind putting out every night. Not once a week or once a month when she is horny. I finished college in June of this year and my lease is up in August so I am crashing at one of my frat bros house. I don't know him that well (different clique) but he was chill and let me stay with him and his friends.

Two of his housemates have girlfriends who are here 24/7 along with a dog. There will be times during the day or night where I hear something like a dog licking. You know the wet shlicking sound and I thought it was the dog at first licking someone kinda long. But then tonight I heard a girl's moan and it hit me, one of his housemate and his gf was in the next room. All my pent up sexual frustration suddenly exploded inside me, to hear someone having sex so close by knowing they have been doing it more than once per day for at least more than a week that I have been here.

I felt powerlessness. My ego has fallen, I can't trick myself anymore into believing that I am some accomplished PUA who went from virgin to getting girls. Sure I have kissed and fucked now but not because of my own accomplishment aside from my first gf. Who I know found out she was just using me for attention and sex, so scratch that. I have 0 accomplishment.

This is why I'm here again. I want a girlfriend who I can fuck every night like the one I'm hearing next door right now. I want to hear that wet shlicking sound every night because I'm the one making that sound when I pump into my girlfriend's wet hole.

What do I need to do? Just blindly start approaching women? How do I get over my anxiety of rejection?


TL;DR: Recently heard housemate fucking the brains out of his gf next room over. This released all my pent up sexual frustration from not getting sex. I've been lying to myself about my sexual conquest up to now. I have always gone for women who I know won't reject me. Except for my first gf, but it turns out she was using me for sex so I really didn't have any skill. I want a gf who will put out everyday. I want to have sex everyday, more than once per day if possible. How do I achieve this? I still have AA since I never really approached anyone for fear of rejection.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:22 am 
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That's a well written post. I feel your pain, we've all been there bro. I didn't lose my virginity til after college at 23. I didn't learn about pickup until three months ago at the age of almost 30. The main issue that you seem to have a problem with is that you're not going out enough. Reading pickup and not sarging is like reading bodybuilding advice and not going to the gym. You probably have tons of knowledge, but aren't able to execute.

Did you read Stylelife Challenge? A lot of things in there are outdated, but it has some exercises that can help your social skills. It has stuff like asking random hot girls for nice clothing shops, then going to those shops and asking a female worker for help in selecting clothes. The goal is not looking for numbers, but rather to improve social skills with hot girls. Also, by not having the goal of getting laid or numbers, there is no approach anxiety. This will help you deliver smooth and fluid indirect openers when you actually go sarging in nightgame.

From what I learned from RSD, you are making one fatal mistake in pickup: your mentality of pickup is that you are outcome-driven, rather than process-driven. Many successful people are outcome-driven: They get into a good college or a good job, and they'll do whatever it takes to get there, but for some reason, they have really bad luck with girls. Do you go skiing to get to the bottom of the hill? Is the goal of a videogame to watch the final cutscene? Do you skydive with the goal of touching the ground?

No, of course not! When you're in a club, don't think about getting laid. Think about having a great time engaging conversations with strangers. Enjoy the PROCESS, including the rejection aspect. Getting rejected is like losing a life in a videogame. It's frustrating. But learn from it, and replay that level and don't make that mistake again! If you turn all rejections into learning experiences, you can never fail because you are gonna get better and better.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:38 am 
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What do I need to do? Just blindly start approaching women? How do I get over my anxiety of rejection?
Yes, approach, approach and approach again! Like every skill, you have to work on it in order to make it natural.
And remember, there's no failure, only feedback

PS: Remember to have fun while doing it! If you are having fun things will be a lot easier


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:39 pm 
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@LastRedemption:

Get off your freightend ass and start approaching. You are frustrated and angry on yourself and so far with these powerfull emotions you have..... felt sorry for yourself on the internet. How is that working out for you?

Common mate! I am not even go there and say: its ok, we have all been there, its alright. No, its not alright! With all that stuffed anger and frustration you managed a post on the internet. you know what to do. it seems like you read books, you read about the end but forgot about the beginning. It is not ok for us to tell you that we feel with you (even though we actually feel with you). You get this internet forum ass wooping because you deserve it! With that amount of anger and frustration, i would have already restarted studying and actually DO the things that i am studying. With all that emotion, no rejection would put me down. Not one, not one hundred, not one thousand!

Dont come here crying because you think you are a coward. We are not here on this forum for to help you cry for your own sorry ass. We cannot help you conquer your approach anxiety. That is yours only to conquer and only you can really do it. Stop trying to find shortcuts in life to deal with your problems instead of dealing with them yourself.

Do come back when you have had some confusing experiences after you actually did some pickup. When you are still frustrated and angry but freaking determinated to actually do something about it. Come back with your stories about the one million chicks you approached and you managed to pull half of them. Come back when about 100 chicks had a strange reaction and you wonder why. Then we will be here for you. Then you will get valuable information from people with valuable experiences. Then you will see me type: dude, its ok, i feel your pain. Until then, get yourself together, create determination from frustration and ferocity from your anger.

When you are feeling down and depressed, you have a choice: you can either let emotion step on you and you sink lower or you can step up on emotion and reach higher.

Enough with this rude awakening (which you hopefully didn't take too personal). I want to see you here on the forum again with either 'successful approach-stories' or CONCRETE problems WHILE appraoching. Another post containing: i don't know how to approach will result in another verbal but still forum-legal asswooping.

So good luck and hope to hear of you soon!

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