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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:11 pm 
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Hey guys, need some suggestions for a girl I'm planning to meet for drinks this Saturday and I want to F-Close on the same night.

Background: Met her at a bar. I started conversating with her after we both met eye contact trying to get the attention of bartender. We talked briefly, just general getting to know about each other but she said it was her last drink and calling it a night and passes me her business card.

I wait three days and say hi, she responds back right away. We exchanged about 5/6 texts and I finished up saying next time I'm around her area I will hit her up for some drinks. She agrees and text exchange is over.

I'm now planning to text her Saturday afternoon to tell her that I'm coming to her area and for her to join me. Below is a rough structure of the night I'm planning and I wanted to check if they will boost or poop my chances for an F-Close.

1. I used to ask ahead of time for a date date so as it won't conflict with her schedule. I now feel that would give the wrong impression that I already care about her life schedule or I'm making a big deal out of this date by pre planning etc...I want to make it look spontaneous by texting her on the same day I want to meet her up ? Is this good move or bad ?

2. If she comes for a drink, do I cover all the charge or dutch style ? Covering drinks is no problem but don't want to give the impression that I'm trying hard to impress her or she might start screening me for the provider type of bf. I don't know, Any suggestions on this would be great.

3. How long after we start chit-chatting should I try to steer the conversation to a sexual topic ? Right away ? An hour ? Two ?

4. If she keeps steering conversation from the sex topic to relationship, trust, friendship etc does it mean she's screening me for bf material and not interested in one night stand ?

5. Should I place/sit myself as close as possible to her and start physical escalation right away after getting IOI. Then go for K-close. Then lead her out, hail a cab to the house for the F-close. Is this good or bad move ?

I've never attempted to close this fast and feel like I'm entering uncharted territories. I know for some of the experts here who meet and F-close on the same day this territory is like a cake walk so I would really appreciate any feedback from you guys.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:34 pm 
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1. No biggie.
2. Pay. Seriously it's just drinks. Paying is social norm and won't qualify/disqualify you or whatever, it's freaking drinks, what is that, $15?
3. You don't need to steer the conversation to a sexual topic, what you want is to steer the conversation to a path that lends you guys getting out of the bar and into a sex location, such as one of your apartments. THIS IS THE KEY STEP TO THE FIRST DATE LAY
4. Irrelevant per my answer to point #3
5. Kino early; don't go for K-close early, only when you are ready to bounce and even then, it isn't necessary.

Most importantly, relax, have a good time, and be confident. Point #3 is the key. The key to the 1st night lay is getting her to a sex location. This is best done in innocent ways in my opinion, like "come over and hear me play guitar" or whatever. Not by talking about sex.

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Thanks man. I really appreciate your suggestions. Glad to know #1 is no biggie. If she flakes, I'm cool, I think I've managed to exorcize the curse of onetis which was my biggest obstacle in the past. Regarding #2, I usually do it even with women I have no interest in bedding. But putting it out there just incase if that would be a turn off for quick lay.
I think I will follow the path you laid about talking her to a sex location. My place is 45 minutes but hers is close and she just moved in. I was thinking of using that and ask her to check out her place and seal the deal there ? Good move ? Or trek to my place 45 minutes away ? My concern is she might change her mind half way. It happened to me once or am I failing to see this stuff as part of their game ? What actions to take in this scenario ?


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You are looking for seduction in which case I would steer the conversation to a sexual topic. Expect buyers remorse if it works and she "normally doesn't do this kind of thing"


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Thanks man. I really appreciate your suggestions. Glad to know #1 is no biggie. If she flakes, I'm cool, I think I've managed to exorcize the curse of onetis which was my biggest obstacle in the past. Regarding #2, I usually do it even with women I have no interest in bedding. But putting it out there just incase if that would be a turn off for quick lay.
I think I will follow the path you laid about talking her to a sex location. My place is 45 minutes but hers is close and she just moved in. I was thinking of using that and ask her to check out her place and seal the deal there ? Good move ? Or trek to my place 45 minutes away ? My concern is she might change her mind half way. It happened to me once or am I failing to see this stuff as part of their game ? What actions to take in this scenario ?
If you are close to her place try to get it to her place...

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You are looking for seduction in which case I would steer the conversation to a sexual topic. Expect buyers remorse if it works and she "normally doesn't do this kind of thing"
LOL @buyers remorse, but Hey, I'll tell her my return policy is exchange for another product but no refunds :-)...But yea, I will try to bring her to a sexual topic, to get her wet and give her the signals that I'm going for the bullseye. But as the fury suggested I should not be so fixated on it and focus on leading to sex location as the primary objective.
But I think there is room to improvise. For instance, if the sex topic gets her turned on so much and if she starts giving me good IOIs, I guess I will go in for a K-close and if it gets really hot I wouldn't mind finishing the deal in the bathroom or behind the dumpster lol (Never done this before, so it would make for a great lay and good story for later). Thanks for your input dude.
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Thanks man. I really appreciate your suggestions. Glad to know #1 is no biggie. If she flakes, I'm cool, I think I've managed to exorcize the curse of onetis which was my biggest obstacle in the past. Regarding #2, I usually do it even with women I have no interest in bedding. But putting it out there just incase if that would be a turn off for quick lay.
I think I will follow the path you laid about talking her to a sex location. My place is 45 minutes but hers is close and she just moved in. I was thinking of using that and ask her to check out her place and seal the deal there ? Good move ? Or trek to my place 45 minutes away ? My concern is she might change her mind half way. It happened to me once or am I failing to see this stuff as part of their game ? What actions to take in this scenario ?
If you are close to her place try to get it to her place...
Sounds good. Thanks.

I will update you guys on how it turned out ;-)


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She flaked out and I've hit the next button lol


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