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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:21 pm 
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Hi guys,

I've been in the PUA stuff for about 3-4 month and some of our friends (girls) just asked me a few days ago how could I get so many girls (we go out together quite often and I usually sarge when they are around) so I talked to them about the PUA stuff.

They don't want to be in a relationship for the moment and are looking for male sex friends and were very interested about all this stuff (withtout doubting as they saw the results).
What kind of book could I advise them to read in order to improve their "game" ?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:38 pm 
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Here's a couple of links:

fpua-blogs-vt82810.html

read-this-book-vt93605.html

Credit goes to Roz and Angelgal.

P.S. If you have trouble viewing these posts, let me know.

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Hi Txacoli,

Thanks for your quick answer. I have issues to view the links, they redirect me to the homepage of the forum. Do I need special credentials to access them ?


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you come off like you are lying .. woman do not ask about PUA like that... most woman aren't into that stuff at all.

what a woman need to do : put up some make up and a nice dress .. go out .. tell her friends not to cockblock ... give him some drinks or none at all .. and spread her legs.

woman do not need game

if i assume it is true :

they actually are interested in you since your subcommunication identifies with PUA identity and they are just looking for male sex friends - actaully they just want to fuck you because they think it's hot. if you really had paid attention you probably would see the shitload of IOI they were giving to you.

by the way most people who are into PU for 3 or 4 months still suck... i've seen really succesfull people doing PU and still they needed at least a year to be consistent in the basics

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Yes, I'll copy the content.

http://body-and-brain.blogspot.com/

http://flirtexperiment.blogspot.com/

http://www.femalepickupartist.com/

http://girlgame.wordpress.com/

http://femalepickupartist.blogspot.com/

http://cocksanddolls.blogspot.com/

Credit for these goes to Roz.

A book reccomendation from Anglelgal: "Stop Getting Dumped!" By Lisa Daily

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I don't necessarily agree. A lot of my straight female friends ask me what should they do to get quality men. Sure they can spread their legs, but the guys that approach them are not the quality guys they're looking for. And girls get played too, they just want to be able to hold their ground. The game takes two :)

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Game can definitely help females, but not to the same extent as males. Looks being equal, a PUA male will pick up squillions times more than a AFC male, but a PUA female will only be marginally more successful than a AFC female.

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I agree to an extent. But I'd say most of the mid game can be applied by girls, not being needy, being unavailable etc. These are turn ons, or has it been so long a girl has made you not be able stop thinking about her? If she's a challenge, she can get higher quality males. You know those girls, maybe hb7 but she holds herself like a 10? And she screws your brains out and you think you have her for sure and she then comes out with a line like, You're really sexy and sleeping with you is so much fun, but I'm just not looking for anyone right now. Now you have to have her, damnit! You know you can do so much better, you know she's not special and all that, but why isn't she into you? She does some push pull after that and there you have it. Ok, you guys all know game too well, but imagine what she can do to a guy who is doing average with women but has no concept of the game.

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The biggest problem is that for men, logic rules!!! You might be playing games left and right and doing a great job of it, but at the end of the day a man is ruled by logic. A man thinks, good looking, good job, has a car and a house, doesn't do drugs, fun to be around.... = yum yum yum.

Game is really targeting emotions more than logic, that's why it works so well on women, but not so much men.

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Men also have emotions that can be clearly targeted, or instincts, desires and needs. Why else would virgins be so popular? The biggest thing females can take advantage of when it comes to game is male competitiveness. The jealousy card, the unavailable card. Men love to chase, I'm sure you can't deny that. So there are things females can use to "game" men. The difference is, females are gaming for commitment and sex is just a tool. Sure, women like sex, but if it's only sex she's after, she'll get it easily and next you most of the times. But if she wants to keep the guy, it helps a lot, really a lot if she has some game.

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Men also have emotions that can be clearly targeted, or instincts, desires and needs. Why else would virgins be so popular? The biggest thing females can take advantage of when it comes to game is male competitiveness. The jealousy card, the unavailable card. Men love to chase, I'm sure you can't deny that. So there are things females can use to "game" men. The difference is, females are gaming for commitment and sex is just a tool. Sure, women like sex, but if it's only sex she's after, she'll get it easily and next you most of the times. But if she wants to keep the guy, it helps a lot, really a lot if she has some game.
I think women are natural gamers. They're running game all the time. Any girl who doesn't and is sexy eventually turns into the ultimate one night stand (and I'm aware how unhappy those type of women are).

So if the question at hand is, 'how do women gain sex?'. Then if the woman at hand is attractive enough, she can pretty much get sex on demand. But I doubt that's what most women want. I mean, they definitely want and need sex - but it has to be in the right context. I guess the male PUA job is to imply that context to the mind of a woman.

As for gaming for relationships. I think the best advice wouldn't come from a predominantly male pick up community. They simply have no clue how a woman would trigger a man's desire to stick with her (and no, it has very little to do with physical attractiveness). There's a great distinction between women I'd just want to fuck (that is, physically attractive girls) and women I'd see as potential LTR material (who are also nonetheless physically attractive).


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Men also have emotions that can be clearly targeted, or instincts, desires and needs. Why else would virgins be so popular?
insecure men repressed by society ? lol
... woman doing game is outside my reality .. totally .. i've seen woman who play games with being hard to get just because they like tension.

i just don't see the point ... men want to fuck .. why do woman need to run game on men if they want to fuck those men ? good looking men also fuck alot of bad looking woman .... i don't understand .. it's like taking a 20 mile drive to a 5 mile destination... woman are repulsed by logic in general .. a womans brain is hardwired to responds to emotions.

i need a woman who is into game explain to me how she feels about it ....

damnit you guys confuse me ... i feel like twilight zone

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They need no game to fuck, that's obvious. That's why I said they game for commitment. The female game is about making the guy stick around, and here I think they can really use the male competitiveness to their advantage, it's just manipulation and mind games, and she can check out the current state of her prey with some shit tests any time, ain't that sweet!

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They need no game to fuck, that's obvious. That's why I said they game for commitment.
yayayayaya. I used to always think "why do girls need to know any game? they have a special thing called the vagina and women's rights :S" lol I've realized, girls do have game :S. I had several friends and what not who I've managed to get to squeal.

Girls use a colour coding thing? like red yellow orange and green, on first glance.

They do a similar "you need to work for me" thing.

They touch you, and don't let you touch them. (had a girl gimme a lapdance, but i was more trapped than anything)

They expect you to do things for them, and move on if you don't do it. (kinda like paul jankas outlook on women)

and yeah.


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@Txacoli : thank you very much for the links and for the book title ! I also read that The rules by Ellen Fein could be usefull for girls
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by the way most people who are into PU for 3 or 4 months still suck... i've seen really succesfull people doing PU and still they needed at least a year to be consistent in the basics
About this, after 4 month I'm far from calling myself a player and am definitly still a newbie : I still suck on regular dates and am still unable to play day game but I can assure you that 4 month of reading with 3-4 nights a week out to practice really improved my inner game and was more than enough to be able to act Alpha, to be good at reading IOI, sexuating conversation, kino escalating and k-closing and/or f-closing (I k-close 2-3 girls a week and f-close 1 each week since 2 month).
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they actually are interested in you since your subcommunication identifies with PUA identity and they are just looking for male sex friends - actaully they just want to fuck you because they think it's hot. if you really had paid attention you probably would see the shitload of IOI they were giving to you.
In fact I already fucked one of them but I wont do it again because it's a friend, I'm not that attracted by her and I don't want thing to be akward so she know I'll never be a regular sex friend.
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Sure they can spread their legs, but the guys that approach them are not the quality guys they're looking for. And girls get played too, they just want to be able to hold their ground. The game takes two :)
Totally agree, girls just have to put a nice dress and spread their leggs to get screwed by a random guy but what if they want to be able to choose ? A guy could also wait for the end of the night and hit on every drunk girl and he would probably get laid without all the pua stuff...
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I agree to an extent. But I'd say most of the mid game can be applied by girls, not being needy, being unavailable etc. These are turn ons, or has it been so long a girl has made you not be able stop thinking about her? If she's a challenge, she can get higher quality males.
Exactly, I think a lot of points in the game can apply both to men and women : kino, push and pull, playing hard to get and even a lot of routines used by PUA (palm reading and a lot of that kind of routines just reminds me the way girls were flirting with me when we were 14 years old).
Girls are much better naturals than men but reading some game stuff can probably help them to improve some points (being able to give the right signals, "helping" a shy guy that interest them,...).


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