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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:34 pm 
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I know this has probably been discussed a lot but it happened to me again just recently and wondered what will be the best way to do this.
So I am sitting at the bar and she's dancing about 20 feet away from me. She's the hottest in the bar, no question about that. She gave me the eye quite a few times through the night, but never held it for more than a second. However, when I moved to the other side of the bar to talk to a friend, then she turned towards me glimpsing again. There were about 5-6 guys (losers) who made a circle around her and her friend and dancing around them, classic situation. Well, when you look from aside this looks just pathetic and I will never want to be one of those guys, I feel sorry for them. However, it looks literally like a wall between her and me, because I need to make way through the guys to get to her and start a conversation.

My question: Is she just an attention seeker, and if not, why didn't she hold eye contact for more than a second every time she looked at me?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:46 pm 
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If I was you, I would have just taken a leap of faith. Those guys circling her probably just didn't have the balls to do anything, and she knows this more than anyone. Take those glances at you as an ioi and just go in. Cut straight through the other guys and take her hand. This will show a lot of balls. If she accepts, game on, if not who cares, move on. Just don't wait too long. Each time she looks at you and your just sitting there looking at her your value is very quickly decreasing. Hit hard, hit hard.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:39 pm 
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I have actually done this before. Girl with guys where you can see the guys are scared to escalate.
I just went over without saying anything took the girls hand and started dancing with her.
Guys in this situation will actually respect you and move out of the way which is fair enough because they had the opportunity to make a move on her but they didn't.
I say go for it.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:42 pm 
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be careful about who you are considering a loser. they were the ones who took initiative to at least go get close to her, you didn't. They were the ones who evidently have the bigger pack of friends then you have, you don't. Also, she probably gave a lot of people the eye that night. If she looked for one second at a time, I would say it's more of a case she thinks you are weird then you are cute


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:14 pm 
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Just wave her over to come to you for god sake!. common sense!

I hope you regret letting this girl walk out of your life forever for passing on these golden opportunities with amazingly stunning ladies.

Don't worry, there are guys like me that will seal the deal for you instead. ;)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:51 pm 
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Those guys probably felt sorry for you because you are sitting down watching and not having a good time. They aren't "losers" they just don't understand attraction. Having this attitude toward men will prohibit you from being successful within a lot of endeavors. I see all men as potential friends and as a result they always offer to do me favors; they'll even try and hook me up with the girl at the bar they are afraid to go approach.

Whats are irrelevant within seduction. The only thing that matters is "how". Me and you could say or do the same exactly thing to a girl and she will respond favorably to the guy with the most confidence. You have to go on out there and try things today so you can be stronger and more attractive tomorrow.

Approach and fail and fail again - The moment you lose the fear of failure by experiencing it so much is the moment it will become a thing of the past. The issue with guys trying to get into this is they are looking for the perfect approach or thing to say to avoid rejection. When there is no perfect thing, and you will get rejected. Thousands of times of you want to get good so its better to get it over with as soon as possible.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:45 pm 
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I had a similar experience and I'll tell you what I did. I was in a club in Spain called Zoo. There were two German girls dancing and six guys were around them doubting whether to open or not. I immediately saw one of the girls and opened. I used a direct approach and immediately was dancing with her. The other guys walked away.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:33 pm 
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Thank you for the replies.

First, I do not regret for anything. I hooked up with another girl (let's call her hb2) that night who was giving me more accurate IOI and I just got a different, more natural vibe from her. Maybe the fact that I was flirting with hb2 got the attention of hb1, or maybe I didn't like her that much after all and that's why I went for hb2. Now, I am just studying the behaviour of hb1. This type of girls can look quite depressed and unhappy sometimes and I would like to know why. Is it because of self-consciousness or weak flirting skills? Normally women that have average or above average looks tend to have much better social skills and are great to have a conversation wit, than the glamorous type. It's probably true that most models are dumb.

P.S. Some guys actually talked to her, and others took pictures with her, but they didn't get any further than that, she clearly wasn't interested. But was she enjoying the attention? Probably these girls just like having all the attention and the fact that she didn't get mine was buggin her.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:41 pm 
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Stop justifying your lack of action with excuses. :)

Oh and stop assuming blondes are dumb stereotypes. You just made a thread about her how you missed out on her despite her assumptive 'dumbness'.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:04 pm 
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Stop justifying your lack of action with excuses. :)

Oh and stop assuming blondes are dumb stereotypes. You just made a thread about her how you missed out on her despite her assumptive 'dumbness'.
I just prioritized and played safe. If I went to hb1 and failed, then hb2 would be nearly impossible to pick-up after she sees that. Again, I do not regret my choice guys, I played my cards smart, just thinking if it's worth to start learning how to pick-up models, and if you know any special techniques that's all. Most of them are quite self-consciouss and making funny remarks about their looks can get you in deep trouble though, so I am not entirely sure that negging will work.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:44 am 
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Those guys probably felt sorry for you because you are sitting down watching and not having a good time. They aren't "losers" they just don't understand attraction. Having this attitude toward men will prohibit you from being successful within a lot of endeavors. I see all men as potential friends and as a result they always offer to do me favors; they'll even try and hook me up with the girl at the bar they are afraid to go approach.
^^ This.

Bro, you shouldn't look at other peoples short comings to make yourself feel better about your own actions. If they were such "losers" then you should have flew in there and swept her off her feet. But you didn't.... And one of them probably fucked her. Someone is probably fucking her right now. Kinda sucks, doesn't it? If only you had taken action, it might be you fucking her instead.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:56 pm 
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It's funny how you call the girls hb1 and hb2. You can probably do better than a 1, but I see you hooking up with about a 2 or maybe 3 tops. HaHa!!!


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you were the one sat on your chair looking at the girl. At least the dancing guys were trying and had more of a chance then you sitting down.

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