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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:49 am 
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I really dont know why, but it feels like my game is absolutely shit, i have read a ton of stuff about PUA but it seems that i still make a lot of mistakes. Normally when i attempt PU i dont care about the aftermath, but witnessing today, it felt strange.

I went out to sarge with 2 buddies of mine, we had a few drinks and i was totally in the mood. My objective was to just have fun and learn.
I dont have that many problems with AA at the moment, i have a good mindset about not caring, nothing to lose etc... We opened many sets asking for directions, swapping into a very fun convo but in the end, we always got left behind. I even set my boundaries by opening like this:

Girls, there's something i need to ask. i want to begin a modelling career, so i saw this opportunity and i sent in the sexiest picture i got but i got rejected, can you give me your opinions on this picture? Then i'd show them an absolutely ridiculous photo of me that made them instantly laugh and say things like ''hmm.. I wonder, haha!'' , i'd give some funny responses and i'd eventually run out of things to say and they take their leave.

Another thing i really couldn't believe was at the club, i opened by giving my phone to a girl and have her make a picture of me and my friends. I told her it was well made and high-fived her, instantly swapping to a conversation. I spot her friend who's really cute (hb9) and i go over to her, asking her name etc... She kino's super heavily, holds me tighly when i talk to her etc.. We make a joke, i go and hug her, she hugs me back, i offer my hands, she takes my hands and dances with me for 10 seconds. A few minutes later i'm just standing there dancing and her friends pull her out and go outside, i follow 'em, we have a chit-chat and i eventually leave. The conversation was strange, felt like they were just girl-talking and on their own while we still pulled great stuff. Eventually i tell the guys to go and have fun, offered them to join us along but they never showed up, 2 hours later we meet them (randomly) at another club and i see all 3 of 'em dancing with afc's (I guess i wasn't much better?) which kinda pissed me off after such a great start.

Set after set after set we opened but never got them super interested, or bounce with us etc.. It kinda frustrated me. I also noticed that the people were very young though.

Any advice on how to build attraction? It feels like i'm missing some very important parts. I also have a hard time keeping a conversation up and these girls were just chit-chatting about random bullshit. There was a lot of context but nothing i could use, i even tried going for the 5 question game but they kept telling us, nono we dont play games! etc.. Absolutely no chance even when i was persistent in a f&c way.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:10 am 
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Hey there it sounds like you're not building a deep enough connection when you interact with these females. When talking to women Focus on asking them deep, thought provoking questions that force them to think and feel emotions. That's how you get women opening up to you and wanting to hang around you.

Check out this blog post that I recently wrote which goes into much more detailing: http://womenattracted.com/how-to-attrac ... the-guide/

I hope that helps.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:49 pm 
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I want to get better, my experiences haven't been so great.
Before I got into PUA, I was not happy either with my high failure rate. I plodded along on my own for 2 years or so until I found this MPUAForum because Carlos Xuma's forum wasn't working and I needed to find some answers on a PUA product I've bought from him. I was happy with saging 3 to 5 girls a week back then.

In this forum, the Jackal Ronin's teams' Field Reports kicked my butt when I realized they were probably sarging hundreds of women a day. That fast tracked my PUA self development from laid back to hardcore competitive.

Of course, before I got into PUA, I was already a womanizer. I'm not that good although I got laid a few times here and there.

Let's critique your sarges. I won't hold back. You're going to get some tough love so you'll get laid consistently.
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I even set my boundaries by opening like this:

Girls, there's something i need to ask. i want to begin a modelling career, so i saw this opportunity and i sent in the sexiest picture i got but i got rejected, can you give me your opinions on this picture? Then i'd show them an absolutely ridiculous photo of me that made them instantly laugh and say things like ''hmm.. I wonder, haha!'' , i'd give some funny responses and i'd eventually run out of things to say and they take their leave.
Never, ever, make girls laugh at the expense of lowering your status with them, at the risk of looking effeminate, or at the expense of your masculinity. Women are always looking for a better deal; hence, they cheat on their boyfriends when they see a potential better deal (or dude).

There are better ways to make girls laugh such as by showcasing your masculinity rather than putting yourself down with a ridiculous photo.
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Another thing i really couldn't believe was at the club, i opened by giving my phone to a girl and have her make a picture of me and my friends. I told her it was well made and high-fived her, instantly swapping to a conversation. I spot her friend who's really cute (hb9) and i go over to her, asking her name etc... She kino's super heavily, holds me tighly when i talk to her etc.. We make a joke, i go and hug her, she hugs me back, i offer my hands, she takes my hands and dances with me for 10 seconds. A few minutes later i'm just standing there dancing and her friends pull her out and go outside, i follow 'em, we have a chit-chat and i eventually leave. The conversation was strange, felt like they were just girl-talking and on their own while we still pulled great stuff.
This is normal. I've been cockblocked so many times too even when the girl is into you. At first, you really don't know what to do. But after so many sarges, you get better at handling cockblocks.

What works for me is to ignore all of the girls and let them go; but of course I do daygame which requires a different strategy. Following the girls without getting invited smacks of neediness. If something doesn't work out, move on. This attitude pays off in the long run because girls will notice that you're different from all of their orbiters who follow them around and act like dogs wagging their tails to catch a pussy up a tree for their boners.
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Set after set after set we opened but never got them super interested, or bounce with us etc.. It kinda frustrated me. I also noticed that the people were very young though.
I'm guessing that you're using classic MM. I've tried MM too until I hit a brickwall with the negs and isolating girls. Learn something else if the MM sequence is not working for you.

Learn about 60YoC's Eye Fuck here: better-to-smile-on-the-street-or-not-vt165210.html

You will also get an introduction to my Ovulation Theory in that thread. Girls who are in clubs are mostly ovulating women unlike during daygame. This means that they are horny. To better leverage this fact to your advantage, learn some seduction dance from Skills360, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piR5smPoxRs

Learn also about my Monster Cocking Theory here: the-girls-that-don-t-do-anything-vt165321.html

You have to make girls horny enough for you before you can isolate them. The sex drive is a better motivator than emotional connection or DHVs. You only use emotional connection to transition a girl into more sexual things.
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It feels like i'm missing some very important parts. I also have a hard time keeping a conversation up and these girls were just chit-chatting about random bullshit. There was a lot of context but nothing i could use, i even tried going for the 5 question game but they kept telling us, nono we dont play games! etc.. Absolutely no chance even when i was persistent in a f&c way.
For conversations with the 18-21 year old age range, learn some wide rapport techniques, here: my-sticking-point-generating-attraction ... ml#p780161

Also, more exposure infield is still the best teacher. Theory and our advices here can only help you so far. You'll have to wreck in the time infield to really get good at this.

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