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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 9:23 am 
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so tonight I went to a wedding. There were these 2 girls waiting to get drinks from the bartender. so I copied something that simplepickup does. I said "do you guys have aids?" they said "what?" I asked again. They said "you mean did we already eat?" I said "never mind. I was just trying to meet you" then I extended my hand and introduced myself. Then I said "you must not be from here" then they just ignored me and walked away to the salon.
in the salon, I went to them again and said "why are you just ignoring me like I dont exist? do you guys have boyfriends?" one of them ignored me, the other one said "yes. we have to go to the bathroom" and they left.

Is it something that I did wrong, or were they just bitches?

encounter 2: there was an empty seat next to me and I had my hand there. This is just a habit I have, I lean my hand in the seat next to me, if it's available. so this girl came and said "is anyone sitting here?" I said "no" she said "can I sit here?" I said "no" then as she was leaving, I said "I'm just kidding, come here" but she just went and sat next to her friend, both in one seat. Then like a few minutes later, I approached her from behind and put my hands on her shoulders, as if giving her a massage. she said "can I help you?" I said "why are you avoiding me?" she said "I am not avoiding you...go back to your seat"

Then by the end of the night, I went and just extended my hand to her, without saying anything. she shook it and said "I'm sarah. nice to meet you" I said "nice to meet you too. there is something about you that I like. maybe it's your chin. I like your chin" she said "thank you" I said "would it be too weird if I ask for your number?" she said "I have a boyfriend, and I am leaving" and she got up and left.

so can you tell me if I did anything wrong, or if I just ran into bitches tonight? I dont know man, maybe it's my glasses, my glasses make my eyes look big.

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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:37 am 
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So you ask them if they have AIDS and then invite a "I have a boyfriend" response? Hmmmm not to difficult to work out what went wrong there.


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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:29 pm 
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So you ask them if they have AIDS and then invite a "I have a boyfriend" response? Hmmmm not to difficult to work out what went wrong there.
The OP needs serious work on his game if you use that opener. Situation number 2 girl tries to sit by you and you say no then follow her around and ask for her number :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


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So you ask them if they have AIDS and then invite a "I have a boyfriend" response? Hmmmm not to difficult to work out what went wrong there.
The OP needs serious work on his game if you use that opener. Situation number 2 girl tries to sit by you and you say no then follow her around and ask for her number :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
reason for the AIDS things is that Jesse in simplepickup used it once and I thought it was cool.
the other girl that I didn't let sit down..I dont know, I was just trying to be awkward/funny.

I dont know what else to do, I am about to give up because everything I do, it comes out wrong.

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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 12:32 am 
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Hi guys

so tonight I went to a wedding. There were these 2 girls waiting to get drinks from the bartender. so I copied something that simplepickup does. I said "do you guys have aids?" they said "what?" I asked again. They said "you mean did we already eat?" I said "never mind. I was just trying to meet you" then I extended my hand and introduced myself. Then I said "you must not be from here" then they just ignored me and walked away to the salon.
in the salon, I went to them again and said "why are you just ignoring me like I dont exist? do you guys have boyfriends?" one of them ignored me, the other one said "yes. we have to go to the bathroom" and they left.

Is it something that I did wrong, or were they just bitches?

encounter 2: there was an empty seat next to me and I had my hand there. This is just a habit I have, I lean my hand in the seat next to me, if it's available. so this girl came and said "is anyone sitting here?" I said "no" she said "can I sit here?" I said "no" then as she was leaving, I said "I'm just kidding, come here" but she just went and sat next to her friend, both in one seat. Then like a few minutes later, I approached her from behind and put my hands on her shoulders, as if giving her a massage. she said "can I help you?" I said "why are you avoiding me?" she said "I am not avoiding you...go back to your seat"

Then by the end of the night, I went and just extended my hand to her, without saying anything. she shook it and said "I'm sarah. nice to meet you" I said "nice to meet you too. there is something about you that I like. maybe it's your chin. I like your chin" she said "thank you" I said "would it be too weird if I ask for your number?" she said "I have a boyfriend, and I am leaving" and she got up and left.

so can you tell me if I did anything wrong, or if I just ran into bitches tonight? I dont know man, maybe it's my glasses, my glasses make my eyes look big.
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So you ask them if they have AIDS and then invite a "I have a boyfriend" response? Hmmmm not to difficult to work out what went wrong there.
The OP needs serious work on his game if you use that opener. Situation number 2 girl tries to sit by you and you say no then follow her around and ask for her number :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
reason for the AIDS things is that Jesse in simplepickup used it once and I thought it was cool.
the other girl that I didn't let sit down..I dont know, I was just trying to be awkward/funny.

I dont know what else to do, I am about to give up because everything I do, it comes out wrong.
You need to stick to the basics (Be confident but not overly assholish, use a basic funny or complimentary opener (something that she never gets complimented on), keep the conversation going smoothly, escalate while going at her, get her number, set something up for the near future.


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girls dont find the same kind of shit guys do as funny... I wouldnt use aids as an opener, talk about positive things, why put a deadly sexual disease in their head?... Thats like saying "Whats the best way to cure myself of herpes, do you wanna get to know me?"

Girls dont have the same sense of humor man...
you'd have to be pretty confident and quick with your words to pull that off


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I'm pretty mediocre, so take what I say with a grain of salt. First, I would NEVER open with the "Do you have AIDS?" line. I don't find it funny at all. That was one of the largest sins of the first approach. Second, IMO, if you're going to do a shit opener like that, you have to comeback with something more than "you must not be from around here." Also, you shouldn't open with the AIDS one because it eliminates the "source of good emotions" that women tend to be attracted to.

Second approach was slightly better, in that you didn't open horribly... just what you did next didn't work. Women can find touch either very creepy or very sensual, depending on how you do it. I'm guessing she found it creepy. Personally, while the chin thing was a nice idea, I would've done it a bit differently. Thanks to TheMajikalMethod, I would do something like notice some aspect of her then neg it. However, it would have to be something that most men DO NOT notice immediately. Maybe she danced decently, in which case I would do something like "You dance really well... maybe the 4th or 5th best here."

From the stuff I'm studying and slowly applying (trial and error), the key is being FUN and CHALLENGING, or LIGHT and PLAYFUL, with a challenge.

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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 6:40 am 
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It looks like you should be learning social norms, not pickup.

Either way, simplepickup was made to get YouTube views. Nothing else.
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Thanks to TheMajikalMethod, I would do something like notice some aspect of her then neg it.
MajikalMethod is the new MysteryMethod?

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Wow. Just WOW.


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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:43 am 
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Dude...

Super creepy.


Not constructive, I know... But nothing I say is going to help you until you attempt to understand some cultural ethnography.

AIDS - Controversial topic.

Walking up behind a woman who just thought you were rude to her, let alone touching her, SCREAMS creepy. Even jokingly, would you EVER consider doing that to a dude? If it's outrageously inappropriate in a scenario that someone could defend themselves, imagine what it is like on the contrary. Vulnerable.


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Thanks to TheMajikalMethod, I would do something like notice some aspect of her then neg it.
MajikalMethod is the new MysteryMethod?
No, I was merely pointing out what he told me. And it helped me out, so I decided to spread the information.

For the record, I think the premise of the Mystery Method is sound (linear progression). However, based on what I've read about it, I think there are better methods. You don't need to wear strange clothing to attract women. Being only slightly different can pay large dividends.


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No, I was merely pointing out what he told me. And it helped me out, so I decided to spread the information.

For the record, I think the premise of the Mystery Method is sound (linear progression). However, based on what I've read about it, I think there are better methods. You don't need to wear strange clothing to attract women. Being only slightly different can pay large dividends.
I agree with you- if your goal is to pick up women and you're an average guy, Mystery Method isn't the best method out there.

I would credit him with the neg theory though.

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The aids opener is horrible. there is no value being added to the conversation and absolutely no reason for her to talk to you. The second thing that you did wrong was CHASE her!!! first off you don;t know this women and know you look like a creepy stalker trying to follower her around, bad move man.

On the second set you can't neg her till you have built comfort other wise you look like a fucking asshole. As for going up to her after again you look like a creepy stalker, but this time you touched her. Lets pose and realize you look like a creepy stalker who is chasing women around and touching them. Of course your going to get rejected.

The correct way of doing the second set would of been to let her sit down and start talking. Or if we started from after you said no you should of said something humorous. This works A. because she wants a set (functional) B. She does not think your a creep and it opens her up to conversation.


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The aids opener is horrible. there is no value being added to the conversation and absolutely no reason for her to talk to you. The second thing that you did wrong was CHASE her!!! first off you don;t know this women and know you look like a creepy stalker trying to follower her around, bad move man.

On the second set you can't neg her till you have built comfort other wise you look like a fucking asshole. As for going up to her after again you look like a creepy stalker, but this time you touched her. Lets pose and realize you look like a creepy stalker who is chasing women around and touching them. Of course your going to get rejected.

The correct way of doing the second set would of been to let her sit down and start talking. Or if we started from after you said no you should of said something humorous. This works A. because she wants a set (functional) B. She does not think your a creep and it opens her up to conversation.
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