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Jev
PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:53 pm 
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Heard someone saying that girls can tell whether they would sleep with you within thirty seconds.
This could be complete bull, so I want to know people's opinions on it and how much they agree with it. I've seen no scientific proof for it, someone simply said they heard it and told me.
Personally I don't like it at all, as to me it makes game seem more redundant.
I expect some people to say that the statement is a load of shit, but I don't care, I've been thinking about it a lot and want to know others thoughts.
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:59 pm 
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If you're going by looks only then that may be true as attraction in the physical sense isn't a choice but (allegedly) girls only base 20% of attraction on looks (us guys it's 80%, we're just looking for healthy genes) The purpose of PUA is to improve the other 80% with DHV's and knowledge of women's attraction protocol psychology.
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:06 pm 
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Absolutely true.

You don't even need to talk to them for them to think of you as "a guy I want to fuck."

They can come to the same conclusion just looking at you, or watching you interact with other people.

They just as quickly categorize you as "a guy I want to fuck," as "a guy that would be a good boyfriend" or "a guy who creeps me the fuck out."

All PUA is about IMO is knowing how to get yourself slotted into the first category.

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Jev
PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:07 am 
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But then does that not make all of the game's theories and methods after the social proof, completely useless in a sense? Like going back to before the game was around and girls simply selected who they wanted and there was no learning to seduction?
I cant help but think people like style, like small geeks, were ever seen as potential suitors for having sex with five women at a time. Especially women coming to that conclusion within thirty seconds?
If it is true it makes me less confident about using all these game tactics.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 1:07 am 
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Yes. Most of the stuff around here is bullshit. If you focus on showing girls why they should want to fuck you, letting them know you like them too and then making it easy for her to hook up with you, you'll be way ahead of the curve. everything we learn, ultimately is designed to help you do just that.

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Absolutely true.

You don't even need to talk to them for them to think of you as "a guy I want to fuck."

They can come to the same conclusion just looking at you, or watching you interact with other people.

They just as quickly categorize you as "a guy I want to fuck," as "a guy that would be a good boyfriend" or "a guy who creeps me the fuck out."

All PUA is about IMO is knowing how to get yourself slotted into the first category.
those in category 2 also get das booty, just sayin'
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 4:20 am 
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Yeah, but on her terms, because now they're probably in a monogamous relationship.

Unless he was just putting that act on in order to get laid, thus making him a liar who hurts women.

Always, always better to be Guy 3. You can have a relationship if you want later on, on YOUR terms.

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In club and bar like environments it seems like there are only 2 categories.

1. Fuck
2. OMG CREEP!

I think that appearance matters more than looks do, in the sense that how you present yourself matters more than the genetics.

The 30 second rule is true by my experience, I don't feel that there really is an inbetween.

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Nope, not true at all. They may feel a physical attraction, but guys often blow themselves out with what they say or how they behave within seconds.
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This isn't an absolute true or false rule. You can look at it as a gradient representing the female screening mechanism for a sexual partner.

Here are the nonverbal cues (not exactly 30 seconds) in the first 4 minutes of your first time interaction with a woman.
  • 1. You will catch her looking at you. When you do, hold her gaze. Look directly into the pupils of her eyes until she looks down. She will check out your shoes if those are clean, get a quick glance at your crotch area, and then look back into your eyes again.

    2. She will smile. Bait her to talk. Turn around and show your butt. She will unconsciously check your butt to see if you're good in bed. Engage her in the interaction for a few seconds.

    3. She will touch you. If she rubs your chest or pinches your belly, her horniness is through the roof. If she taps or play punches your arm, you're slotted as boyfriend material.
Those 3 sets of cues are nothing if you fail to escalate properly through the f-close. If you fail in your escalation, you will be slotted as a friend that she wanted to fuck the first time she laid her eyes on you but she no longer wants to fuck.

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:31 am 
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Here's my argument for "it happens in 30 seconds at most:"

Have you ever played that game "Fuck, Marry, Kill" with a female friend?

Yeah?

How long did it take her to answer?

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Here's my argument for "it happens in 30 seconds at most:"

Have you ever played that game "Fuck, Marry, Kill" with a female friend?

Yeah?

How long did it take her to answer?

That is genuinely the worst proof for an argument. That can show that people make a decision quickly without being a retard. If they did the game with strangers, there answers would change a lot once they got to know the person potentially.
I don't have understand why you're a member of this site if you basically think there's no game required at all? Surely people like style prove that game has something to do with it.
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Here's my argument for "it happens in 30 seconds at most:"

Have you ever played that game "Fuck, Marry, Kill" with a female friend?

Yeah?

How long did it take her to answer?
Its a game, not real life. Your post was f*cktarded, and your point moot.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:00 am 
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A. So Fuck Marry Kill is a game, but seduction isn't a game?

B. When did I say game isn't required? Game is how your recognize girls that like you, express your interest back, and make it happen without Bursting the Bubble. 99% of bullshit about routines and approach angles and which opener is best, is just that--bullshit.

C. Cool, you guys go work on field-testing 300 different openers and never getting laid. I'm gonna go find a chick who wants to fuck me.

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Jev
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:39 pm 
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I'm doing well with women. It's not about proving ourselves to random screen names we're never going to meet. What I'm saying is, is just that game really isn't proof at all. Girls can make judgement on looks. Doesn't mean they're going to stick to that decision if you demonstrate enough value and show you're charismatic. However I do agree though, that getting your head too much into superfluous details like angles is unnecessary.
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