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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:37 pm 
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I've done about 50 approaches in the past month and I never get past the opener.

I will go up to a girl and say 'I saw you and I thought you were really cute so I thought i'd say hi'. Every time i do this the girl will nearly always walk away and there are no signs of me ever being at a stage where i can get past the opener with girls.

It doesn't help that I am only able to approach women when there aren't any other people around so I can only do one or two approaches a day!

Any words of advice?!


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:44 pm 
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I've done about 50 approaches in the past month and I never get past the opener.

I will go up to a girl and say 'I saw you and I thought you were really cute so I thought i'd say hi'. Every time i do this the girl will nearly always walk away and there are no signs of me ever being at a stage where i can get past the opener with girls.

It doesn't help that I am only able to approach women when there aren't any other people around so I can only do one or two approaches a day!

Any words of advice?!

Because that is the lamest opener ever lol you have to be MEMORABLE.

You can't be direct if your body language and tonality aren't perfect.


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:11 pm 
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I've done about 50 approaches in the past month and I never get past the opener.

I will go up to a girl and say 'I saw you and I thought you were really cute so I thought i'd say hi'. Every time i do this the girl will nearly always walk away and there are no signs of me ever being at a stage where i can get past the opener with girls.

It doesn't help that I am only able to approach women when there aren't any other people around so I can only do one or two approaches a day!

Any words of advice?!
dont go out of your way to meet girls, it seems desperate. if you wanna meet girls go to a place where girls go to get men like clubs or bars. think of most really high status alpha male succesful and everything, do you think hes gonna waste his time opening girls in daytime, please


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:20 pm 
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Day game works great, but it has to be very casual. The only time I'll ever do it is if she's circumstantially right next to me. This means we're both in line for something, pass next to each other in the grocery store aisle, checking the same clothing rack at the mall. I used to think having the balls to just walk up to the girl would get me the girl. It doesn't work like that. It usually makes you seem too aggressive and potentially dangerous. The secret to all game is to keep it very casual. You're calm, confident, and comfortable wherever you are.

The opener you use is pretty bad. Try observational openers instead and carry the conversation from there. If you can make her laugh in the opener, you're guaranteed at least a 60 second conversation.


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:08 pm 
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Day game is as easy as you make it bro. If you trust your insticts, go with them- It could prove to be the best thing you do today.

I've mentioned the following to a couple of people about day gaming- My opener in supermarkets is if you see a girl looking around on shelves for something that she can't find, I say "You look about as lost as I am..." ( I pretend to be looking for something that I can't find too. Except do NOT do this while your on the tampon aisle, it makes you just look strange...)
The girl will almost always giggle and say what she is looking for. I take a few seconds to 'look' for her. It all depends on the aisle your both on really. You could always use the products on the aisle to "create" a funny story that you were in recently. (of course you weren't, all you want to do is make her laugh, and feel more comfortable around you.) Try it- it isn't hard. Just make sure that you sound like to can approach anyone (i.e. The tone of your voice, your body language, etc...)

In the mean time, try researching tighter openers that have been proven to work.

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:49 pm 
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You're triggering an autopilot response because the opener is very direct. It's also very powerful and triggers the girls "swept off her feet" romantic ideal. What you do is "barrel though" and keep talking to use up the girls cognitive buffer so she can't make an instant protective "no" decision. The autopilot is exactly what it says on the tin "AUTOPILOT" It's no reflection on you. Just keep talking and ask questions of her. Once a certain amount of time has been spent interacting with you they back rationalise their still being there as interest on their part.


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:30 am 
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I always use the similar line and it actually works for me. Girls don't really care what you say but care how you say it. 90% of communication is body gestures and only 10% that actually is verbal communication. Try to say it to mirror and evaluate it, maybe it sounds creepy when you say it. Soft tone, playful voice and a little smile might help.

Additionally, if you hit on younger girls like under 21 or something. Girls at these ages they aren't very confident and insecure about themselves. So when a guy gives her direct compliments and she might take it the wrong way. Like fight or flight response, she chooses flight lol


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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:26 pm 
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dont go out of your way to meet girls, it seems desperate. if you wanna meet girls go to a place where girls go to get men like clubs or bars. think of most really high status alpha male succesful and everything, do you think hes gonna waste his time opening girls in daytime, please
Yes.


I agree that you shouldn't just go out in the middle of the day to find girls. Approach girls while you're doing something for yourself: go to the store to get groceries, see a cute girl, approach. Go to the mall to get something, see a cute girl, approach. Walking somewhere through a park, see a cute girl, approach. You're at a bookstore looking for a book, see a cute girl, approach. Don't have the mentality that you are going out in the middle of the day to find women. This will help you a lot subconsciously with your inner game and give you a broader view of situational openers.

However, it's true that if you're direct approaching it's mainly about your kinesics and paralanguage. At first don't approach girls who are walking somewhere. Make sure they're standing around or sitting down, and only while you're out doing something for yourself. If you want to practice, start going to Starbucks or any other coffee shop to get coffee.

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