this is a much discussed topic already but:

say you go on 3 dates you might:
makeout, finger her, get a handjob but NO sex, LMR!
you try to manage expectations for it being casual only, along the lines of "it takes me a few months to develop feelings so i cant promise anything" LMR!

(assuming you've done good game up till then, non reactive, freezeout, qualify etc, but no F-close because LMR)

do you:

Cut her off, shes after a relationship thus the LMR
persevere for one or two more dates and push through LMR

this is a question of both "leaving her better than you found her" and cutting your losses

First of all: fingering, handjob and no sex sounds less exciting as me watching youjizz for a half hour.

Second, whats the question? You are wondering what to do with her after telling her that you take a while to "commit", thus will only be down for finger-banging and assisted masturbation?

sorry sorry, i forgot the most important detail.... LMR! LMR! LMR!

*topic post edited*

so the girl i who inspired this thread i banged on the 4th date.
but i cant help but harbour some animosity for making me wait 4 dates... i

Yes, how rude of her.

How dare her only sleep with you after 4 dates. Well done you.

The only advice anyone can give you here? Capitalise the letter 'I' when you use it in a sentence. You will then improve as a person, of that I (note - I not i!) am certain.

Seems like kbird is pretty angry with capital letters in general. Maybe some childhood with an English teacher.

capital letters raped me when i was a child and gave me cancer aids.... i hope your satisfied now mr funny guy

Formal dating is the screening process for a formal relationship. People enjoy sex, but that doesn't mean that every woman will give it up right away. If your purpose is sex, and you are formally dating, then you are barking up the wrong tree.

When your intent is sexual, act according to your intent and allow your intent to be known.

If your intent is dating, then sexuality is a poor foundation of a realtionship, because it is not always there. An asexual relationship foundation is important for the long term. Sexuality can skew judgement as it can be used as a leverage asset, so some women weed out the men who only want sex, through waiting.


Your behavior displays that since your goal sex, you have a better chance at achieving your goal through waiting out dates with one lead. If you were better at creating and closing leads, you would be creating and closing leads instead of chasing one. The purpose of pickup is to generate and close leads so well that chasing cold leads becomes an inferior way of spending your time.

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