Hey guys,
I've decided to register after guest-browsing over the past few months... I'm visiting a friend who I haven't seen in person for over half a year next month. She's really good looking, good personality, but lives too far away for a relationship (I'd probably struggle to get to that point even if I was her fucking neighbour).
So I had an idea, maybe I can just get a one-off thing from her, she's recently come out of a relationship, may have been fucking around with other guys a bit since, not sure personally 'cause I don't talk to her that often and not even sure if it's something she'd openly tell without some digging. I just figure if she's been with guys since, that'd increase my chances...
When I used to see her regularly, I used to basically be 'that guy' who she'd talk to when she had problems, so I was basically in the friend-zone, there's no saying I'm out of it, but I've had no good contact with her in over half a year and she's come out of a relationship since, so maybe the slate could be wiped clean.

The ideas I've had so far is to basically go visit her for a few days, upto a week and try it on... However, I want to keep it clean, so no making what I want clear as day 'cause I still want to remain friends at least and I figure if I just hit on her with no return, she'll be quick to dismiss me.
But my plan is to go there, come across as a fairly different person, nice, charming, talented sort of guy, but not get too involved with the whole 'tend to her woes' thing, 'cause I should imagine that's what got me thrown in the friend-zone last time.
Maybe go out for some drinks one night, gradually build into a conversation and hopefully get her interested, then get where I want to be.

Sorry about the long-winded post, but what I'm wondering is that if you guys would be able to elaborate on the situation with your opinions, questions and hopefully suggestions too!

Many thanks for reading!

Do mini-escalation, test and see how she reacts to you touching her with little mini touches. Does she reciprocate? Does she give you IOIs? You should NOT announce that you want to bone her or anything like that - that would be stupid and would absolutely fail.

I think you're giving way too much of a damn about this friendzone thing. Let her talk about whatever the fuck she wants, but don't like validate her and be like, "Aww, you're such a great person!" - just sorta have half hearted interest, and keep escalating. Lead. If she starts talking about her relationship shit, change the subject to a more exciting subject. Or shut her up by being like, "Ok, now we're going to go do this exciting thing!"

If you've got her alone, you've got a chance with her.

Always be touching her. If you do not touch her, you will not fuck her.

Thanks for the fast reply
So with these mini-touches, like just start by when I get her attention, just light touching such as hand on her arm or back, small gestures to see how she reacts, then maybe progress on that if a good reaction follows, of course not to the point where I just go over to her and put my hand on her ass or something, haha...
As for dismissing her chat about past relationships and current problems and stuff, I'm wondering if maybe I can use it to my advantage somehow... Maybe I could use some tactics to work the wires a bit and make her think that they were even more inadequete than they already were. But I still want to somehow shut her up when she talks about relationships, I have previously tried stuff like "you need a guy who <bla bla bla>", referring to myself, but not making it so obvious to her, then she'll agree with me and go on about some other guy that matches that criteria which is just like a massive hole in the head, so I'm going to lay off of that approach.
I don't want to shut her up all the time when she talks about relationships, but most of the time, or have a solid way of doing it whilst keeping it friendly and charming...

Don't go in for relationship talk, she might bring up negative emotions and associate them with your company.

I think a lot of kino depends on where you look, for example, putting your arm casually around a girl whilst looking into the distance or pointing something out is more easily accepted that looking directly at her when putting your arm around her, if that makes sense.

That makes perfect sense!
Will have to keep that in mind, as for the relationship talk, I'd still like to be a person she can talk to about whatever, but maybe if for the time I'm visiting, I pretty much kill that and resume it after I leave, maybe that could work?

I have a friend who is a "creepy guy" as described my many girls. The reason is partly because he is too intense, and when he makes any kind of physical contact he is looking at them and its not casual. He doesn't have the vibe of someone who is normally touching girls on the arm, shoulder etc.

Admittedly he also gets drunk and strokes girls hair, might have something to do with his rep.

I can imagine looking at them makes it more intense, but not in a good way, such as intensely uncomfortable, haha... I'll keep it in mind, just to hardly even (or never even) make eye contact at all when doing it, just make it seem like a natural thing that I'm not even conscious of!