Hey is anyone here from the SF Bay Area? I live in south bay, and am looking for people to work Day Game with because I want to get good fast. Anyone down, please PM me! I am familiar with MM and SimplePickup and want to work on techniques in both.

A tip for you... Take everything you learned from Simple Pickup and FORGET it lol they are a joke man....

They are more direct, but I don't understand why there are a joke? Examples please.

They think "game" is getting a girls phone number. All the guys who use simple pick-up's methods get tons and tons of flakes. Any asshole can get a girls phone number these days. Those guys are MARKETING majors... They know how to appeal to their audience... Because they have a following, doesn't mean what they do works.

1. They introduce themselves as their opener (The girl wont give a flying FUCK what your name is when you first meet her. You're another guy that walked up to her, therefore, she is going to assume you are hitting on her. She will probably forget your name as soon as you say it. You want to wait until she asks for it.)

2. They compliment girls based on their physical appearance (Big no, no. Compliment a girl on her personality. Not her looks. It's lame and not genuine. Women want someone who is genuine... Not just trying to get in their pants.)

3. They teach you to get a girls phone number and leave. (No matter how advanced technology gets, the absolute BEST way to build a connection with someone is face to face contact. Instead of just getting a girls phone number, don't be afraid to simply say bye. Push the sets you work 120%. Getting a phone number and ejecting will give you a sense of "false hope" with the girl. Leading to rejection. The reason pick-up exists is to minimize the amount of rejections you get. Not create more that are sent directly to the palm of your hand.)

4. They seek no value in a woman besides her vagina. (Keep in mind what you want... If you just want a piece of pussy to pound out, save your time learning and call a hooker. If you want a girl who will not only spread her legs for you and beg to get fucked... but cook for you, clean up after you, do your laundry, take care of you when you are sick... learn to seek more from a woman. This will make it more of a challenge for HER and in turn, make HER chase YOU and want to validate herself to you. Not the other way around.)

Mystery Method is going to give you much better results. Mystery has it almost like a mathematical equation... As long as you plug the right information in, it will be effective. It's much more calibrated than Simple Pick-Up.

That's an interesting insight. I thought SimplePickup seems more natural, the whole dont-give-a-fuck mentality. I started with MM and thought it was very scripted. Maybe that's the wrong word, it's definitely very linear and structured. I feel like it has more canned stuff in it, like canned openers, canned lines, the whole cube routine, cold read routines. I thought it was just like a collection of things you memorize and use in stages, but let me know what your experience is.

The routines and such that Mystery uses are simply examples. Use them so you can understand and it will allow you to effectively gauge a woman's emotions. Once you understand what the routines are doing and the purpose behind them... You can create your own routines and imply the same principles. Once you understand the fundamentals, you will become an assassin. Mystery is semi "robotic" but remember.. Erik Von Markovik was and still is one STRANGE dude. He is the prime example of a introvert. He forced himself to learn by studying other people who were successful with women. But he is still naturally "socially awkward."

Simple Pick-Up is kinda like "lets throw a bunch of shit at the wall and hope something sticks." I prefer more the approach of a sniper rifle. Find my target and fuckin take it out. It's much more effective with getting the women I want. And GIRLS may like someone who "doesn't give a fuck" but WOMEN want someone who is passionate and sticks to their beliefs but is in control of their emotions. Simple Pick-Up is what gives pick-up artists a bad name. Them telling someone who truly is emotional to not show any emotions is a cover up for who they really are. As a man, you should HAVE emotions but be IN CONTROL of them. Completely letting go of your emotions and beliefs will never allow you to feel "whole." This will only feel like a game and you will never get what you really want... Someone to love you.

Hmm that's really cool, any place you recommend for this? I only have seen scripted routines for each of the stages (A1,A2,A3...C1...S1...). I haven't seen the organic MM in action.

I am not going to defend simple pick up but the mindset they offer is right for day game. They are looking for fun, and having fun doing it. I can't knock them for that. They never really establish any social comfort and rapport with their Targets but they do have balls with the approaches they do. They just dont give a fuck which is something i can appreciate, especially in day game.

There is a day game guide floating around somewhere. I suggest you search for it.