What's up Guys!

I have gained a lot of knowledge from this Forum and have been really happy with my success lately. I would like to Thank everyone for helping each other out and making this forum a great place for us troubled men.

So, I was on OKC for about a year and I did a lot of testing in terms of what openers get hooked and the ones that don't. After a lot of trial and error, I got 3 of them down. I will tell you one of them and the structure I used to get the number.

Opener: "I am fat, short, unemployed and I live with my parents. Interested?"

This opener will set you apart from all the guys who send boring and bland messages. All the guys set up their profile so they have nothing to be disliked about, they do their best to impress the girl. But when you send a message of this sort, girls get curious and want to know what you are about. Every girl I sent this message to checked out my profile. Needless to say, your pictures are everything. Make sure you portray your personality from your pictures and come across as a guy who got a lot going on.

Girl: (girls would usually play along)
You: (play along, ask her something from her profile -embarrassing, interesting)

I always go for the date-close by the 3-4th message by yo. Make sure you ask her out first before getting the number(it will set you apart from other guys). Once she agrees, ask for the number and tell her that you will text her the details. I went on more than 30 dates from just OKC in the last 4 months and they were all 7 and above.

A couple of other golden nuggets:

1. Set up a profile as a girl - Make sure you have 3-4 pictures and profile completely filled out.
You will find out what kind of messages guys send girls and how to set yourself apart.

2. Test, test and test - I got this from another guy but this idea is awesome if you don't have a lot of luck. You don't want to test your opener with girls in your area. For testing purposes, use another zip code/area and send test openers to a lot of girls and see which ones get hooked. Once you know which ones work, use them with the girls in your area

Hope this helps.

A.T.

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Make sure you portray your personality from your pictures and come across as a guy who got a lot going on.

Girl: (girls would usually play along)
You: (play along, ask her something from her profile -embarrassing, interesting)

I always go for the date-close by the 3-4th message by yo.

1. Set up a profile as a girl - Make sure you have 3-4 pictures and profile completely filled out.
You will find out what kind of messages guys send girls and how to set yourself apart.

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You date-close by the third or fourth message? That's a pretty bold claim considering by the second message you know very little about her, and she knows nothing about you.

And there's nothing to see as far as what other guys are sending. 99% of it is just "Hey wanna chat".

Hi Mr Jowee,

Yes, that's correct. I ask the girl out by the 3rd or 4th message sent by me. There are a lot of reasons for that.

- Most online profiles are nothing but BS. If you want to get to know the person the best thing to do is to meet them in person.
- If your goal is to linger around by sending 10-15 messages to build rapport with each other, the chances are big that she will lose interest.
- My time is too valuable to sit around, send her 15 messages and wait for her to reply. Also, at the same time she is getting bombarded with messages from other guys. So the sooner you close while she is interested and replying to your messages, the better it is. It's a no-brainer.

Please don't use your arrogance and discourage people from trying to test. Testing is the key to success. Just because you think every guy sends "hey, wanna chat" doesn't mean that's how it actually is. You would be surprised what you find if you put together a legit profile like that. Not only you learn from guys who send plain and boring messages but you will also learn from the small percentage of guys who send phenomenal messages and their profile is spectacular.

If you still have questions, please feel free to ask. I would love to break it down to you.

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