Hey, I'm a lurker. I suppose a rAFC guy. I'm married. Is it even possible for married guys to use this stuff - IE: not just do a great job sarging their own wives, but also pick up girls on the side? Cuz cheating is taboo, right? I'm always hung up with approaching girls, that they might give me away, so the game does not even start. But I also feel that if I can't get into certain techniques (like have options, so my wife does not hold my nuts) I have to actually have girls on the side.

I think responses that just accuse me of wanting to cheat are not really useful.

Responses that give me some help to negotiate the fine line between being a PUA and a cheater would be useful.

Anything is possible dude. But seriously, you don't need to be married. Whatever you do, imagine your wife doing to another man. Dont think shes just sitting at home and not getting hit on everyday. So do what you want at your discretion. But you need to either fix your shit with her and if its not fixable get a divorce. You my friend are feeling the grass is greener effect. There isnt a fine line between a single man on this website and a married man.

arghh...just lost my post, hope I can remember what I wrote.

anyway, this is a good thread.

yes this is doable.

1. really, get over the paranoia. not saying to take dumb risks and there are risks to worry about online but unless it's a small town, there's too many people and they have their own stuff to deal with. any reason to believe you are being setup? cover your tracks, don't shit where you eat etc. get a 2nd cell phone or use an app, get another card with paperless statements etc. all common sense etc.

2. the ex-back type material are better to start with. there's a few but at the core they are very similar.
you need to get back in control, get in shape, get confident again. fix bad habits, get in shape, etc. all that stuff is very important.

3. nothing is 100%, not with pua or the ex-back stuff. it might not be your fault or even hers. you could change but she might not want to or be able to. but feeling good about yourself and knowing that you can take care of yourself and provide for her and any kids will be a boost. taking care of yourself means getting sex on occasion. If you are really, really need in need of some attention/experience or have anxiety issues or whatever there are girls who do that sort of thing, but remember it's a band aide/crutch, and you might not live in a very liberal place and have that bs to deal with.

4. you can still flirt and be playful as a married man and see how it goes and fall back on the just flirting, can get my appetite anywhere as long as I'm home for dinner sort of thing. Lot of people say it's great for her to see a bit of flirting and especially if she sees them flirting back.

5. damned if I can remember all i wrote. we all have reasons, so don't judge. remember pua is just a part of things, you still need to get out there and succeed at what you do, have goals etc.

Would love to see more followup on married game, especially troubleshooting within the marriage. Hard though because of so much history, habits etc.

As the poster above wrote, yes these techniques are employable for practically everyone -- even married men.

However, if I understand correctly, your problem is that your wife is holding onto your testicles. The solution is not necessarily cheating and having girls on the side. What you want is power and independence from a controlling woman, right? If so, there are better solutions than cheating. After all, if you have half a soul, you'd feel remorse (maybe not immediately, but at a later point in your life), and your reputation would be in shambles. What I suggest is to aggressively expand your social circle. Start talking and hanging out with both genders. Being able to confide and depend on a varied social circle will effectively make you feel better as a human being and decrease your reliance on your wife. Once you become good friends with multiple women, you will feel confident enough to actually leave your wife without needing to cheat on her (should it get to that point).

Just something to think about before going down a frowned upon road.

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Before she can respect you, you need to respect yourself.

I want to follow up to this and say just get it over with and get a divorce, assuming she doesn't respond to any sort of in-marriage game: getting more alpha, working out, getting a better job to fix your end of the problem.

You'll be so much better off in the long run.