how do u do a pickup in a gig? usually the music is loud. and opinion openers seems pretty weird. direct approach is kinda weird as well, because women wud feel like u are hitting on them. plus everyone knows everyone. actually i don't have much knowledge about rock music. but my friend is a heavy metal fan and he always bring me to gigs. please advise!

This is a good question. I'd also like to know what sort of approach others have taken at gigs in general and even one day music festivals. Usually most of these places would have a bar in a quieter area where it would be ideal to open. I guess a situational opener is easy at something like a gig or festival, you could simply make a comment or ask a question the obvious topic being the music, although that seems very generic. I'd be interested to know what kind of approach others have taken in this situation.

It doesn't matter what sort of music it is, there are a lot of loud types of music and other things that make it hard to carry on a conversation in a lot of venues. What I would do if I were you would be to learn to move or dance like the others or like the target. You can wait on a break in the music and try to say something, or if it's someone you really want to talk to you can wait until after the show.

If you do feel like the only way is to try to talk over the noise, strategize a way to get your head parallel to hers where your mouth is close to her ear, but any spit that comes out when you pronounce t's and b's and such won't hit her in the face. You also need to try to gauge how loud you are speaking. I've had people that will talk to me sometimes and almost blow my ear drum out even if the music is loud. If you can come up with that approach strategically and say what you need low enough she can't hear but wants to know what you said, she will ask you to repeat. That's typically a good sign. I think it's almost a lost cause to be in a situation like that and not be able to dance whatsoever

I don't think talking over the noise is a good idea. You have to remember most people would be there for the music, if you were a female and had some guy screaming in your ear while you're listening to a band you like you would find it annoying and distracting. Attempting to talk over the noise is silly and counter productive.

obviously you haven't done it.

You may have missed my first post, I never claimed I have, I was asking what has worked for others.
How well has it worked for you then? The situation you described sounds awkward I think it would fail a lot more times than it actually works. How would you open in that situation? What would you say (or yell)?

all pua tactics fail more than they work. I have a lot of experience with meeting girls in loud bars or concerts

i do try to talk to people under loud music. but usually a very short conversation only. yea dancing is a good point. people in the room would feel the energy you are projecting. i tried to talk to the girls during breaks. just ask them if they are having a good time. i failed for quite a number of times. they either act kinda disinterested or tell me their boyfriend is in the band.

totally i've spoken to 5 girls. 3 being disinterested. 1 being friendly. and 1 number close.

p.s. how do i befriend their boyfriends?

I'm not an expert at all but asking if they're having a good time seems a bit AFC.

yep it is AFC....but i've seen some guys done this and worked. right now i am trying everything, so i could be more all rounded.

u've mentioned opening in a quiet area and using situational opener. good point.

wingintyme mentioned talking over loud music and dance. it's also a good point.

if i can open in both ways, i would become a master. i could be more flexible and i will have higher success rate.