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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:12 am 
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This may or may not be a long post, i'm just gunna' flow with it & try & get my problem answered accurate as possible. Bare with me.

Alright so I think I have an analytical problem, not that it's a bad thing but when it comes to PUA it is. I over analyze things alot, because I am smart & like thinking before making advances, but that sometimes has a big downside to it. I been studying PU for awhile now, & I know most concepts & techniques & other things like mindsets & etc. . but I can't get over being so analytical, & it's making PU a drag, i'll explain.

I have so much information in my head, I have no idea what to do with it, i'm very strategic to, that may play a roll in this, you'll see later on how. Like I said a little above it's making it a drag, i'll text a girl, she'll reply & I instantly go into strategy mode, thinking of all these things I can say & wind up not replying because I couldn't decide what the better thing to reply with was. I have all these strategies & tactics at my disposal i'm not sure which one to shoot with, how to see the better one & to apply it.

Now I understand people will just say STOP, but understand everyone has their own unique ways of PU, mine is this. It has potential if built upon correctly or understood better, that's why i'm asking. You say well, that way dosen't work,but what's wrong with being aware & strategic if done correctly?

I'm usually focused on the mindset, "Just have fun in the interaction, it'll flow naturally" & that's exactly what I do, I have fun & get a kick out of the shit I say, pure self-entertainment. But sometimes my fun comes from a thinking perspective first, I enjoy it when I have the right things to say to were I even enjoy my reply, if that makes sense? It's a tough one to explain because even myself i'm trying to break down this issue.

Now this will be easier to understand with some examples, here are some real ones I got caught up in, you'll see what I mean.

Example 1 - Me & a girl planned to hang out, didn't happen. ( I don't stress it, this girl wants my cock bad anyways ) So anyways I write her saying I guess it was a no go for both of us, she says sorry blah blah, here's how it goes by word now.

Me- "Don't be! It was predictable, I had backup plans already, I just don't think you'll have the honor of meeting me is all! >x p"

Her- "Funny I was thinking the same thing. Went out with the boys had a blast so I guess it all works out" Then she does some dumb catface smiley.

Now when I heard that PU automatically picked up on she was obviously trying to compete 'something', because she read my message in her own way & TRIED to get me jealous that she went & had fun with other guys that day. I'm not stressing it one bit, I know if we hung out one time, we'd fuck within the hour so that's not the case, here's how my mind worked when I seen that.

I started thinking all these diffrent ways to reply with these factors involved, thinking about how she may read it & how it will emotionally effect her, what she may think upon reading it, & how it will change any further conversation afterwards. I look at my replys like pathways on a forked road, I want to get good enough where I ALWAYS, if not almost all the time pick the right "path" see what i'm saying?

Here's what I thought up, one reply had to do with a joke within her response I was thinking up something to say involveing "Went out with the boys had a blast" I woulda switched it up like "Boys & having a blast shouldn't be in the same sentence" now here's where I get analytical, I start to think, Is that corny, will she get it or think its equally funny as I do? Another was "Good, just don't tell your boys about me & I wont tell my girls about you, & we can work something in between" I then think, how will she take that & percieve me afterwards, or if she says what do you mean, I don't want to have to explain what I meant, it's obvious but girls do that shit. I'd probably end up typing a bit so she gets it then come off as needy? Or look to invested, see where i'm going? I come up with all these replies but later after I send one I think of an even better one, and that bugs me. I know I know, save it for next time & use it, but I can't always remember all those words for every interaction that may occur, & the chances of it occuring again in the same scenario where it woulda been sweet, are probably low.

So that about wraps it up, i'd share another example but this got pretty long & I think I made my question clear. One thing I want to say is, i'm not a online game guy, i'm not scared of real interactions, I love em', & I have no problem talking to girls, just here & there I get stuck in this analytical rut. Another thing I want to blow off before someone says this is, I DON'T give a FUCK what a girl thinks, let alone anybody, I just want to get past this hurdle/sticking point, it's not that I care it's that i'm very analytical as said many times, & i'm sure it has it's advantages, right now i'm just trying to get through the disadvantages.

Anyways thanks guys, love all ya because i'm on the same grind in the game & understand & respect everyones struggle. Would really appreciate a GOOD reply, not 10 words or less.

Thanks brothas ! :D

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:10 pm 
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To me, it sounds like you are afraid of failure. I know you say you don't care what the girl thinks and all that shit, but anyone reading your post can see through that facade. There is nothing wrong with being analytical - many people here (including myself) are smart and tend to overthink things. You need to learn that if she takes what you say the wrong way, so be it. Unless you go to the extremes, one text or sentence is not going to break attraction. Once this is realized, and you truly believe it, you'll notice you truly don't care and you won't have to worry about overanalyzing situations.

Not that it matters now, but I would have gone a different direction with the response. Say that its cute that she is trying to make you jealous and you find it flattering.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:54 pm 
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Maybe you're right, I do care, but in a weird sorta way. . . I am indeed known for being a "perfectionist" I like things to run smoothly & go just. . perfect, so you saying me being afraid to fail is accurate. Plus I have OCD, not to bad, but I like things being a certain way always, & that is perfection. I know you can't become perfect & no one can, but I want to get pretty close, or just close enough to a comfortable level of self-security within myself. That can tie into confidence issues, but i'd say i'm pretty confident, but not on a level of a superstar, & that's where I want to be heading.

I see what you're saying though, one text/reply shouldn't break attraction, but the recovery if done wrong may break it, & that's what I need to learn better, how to recover from a sour communication I guess you can say.

You're response is good to, want to hear a funny thing, that was my first initial "Tactic" i'd say, I was thinking along those exact words, but then I thought what if she tries to call me out on it, like what are you talking about etc etc. .
Again i'm not sure how'd i'd explain what I meant, nor do I want to, like I said in my OP & above where I say "how to recover from a sour communication" that's exactly what I mean. I don't know how to handle that particular situation well & trigger the wrong emotions because I don't know the right way to respond to that.

I myself even picked up that she fealt I dissed her by saying I had other plans backuped, so she tried to shoot something back at me, it's obvious, but idk. I don't want her to think "Hah it worked, it affected him" I didn't want to make it noticed that I noticed what she said, because I think if I DID, she'd think somehow she's in control of the frame. I didn't want to seem so emotionally affected by it & have her words seem as if they mean a thing to me, something along those lines, see what i'm saying?

Sorry I write so much, I just flow with my thoughts, i'm trying to explain myself as accurately & honestly as possible, & I thank you for taking the time to reply, though I hope more people do.

Now about the whole "recovering from sour communication" thing, how would you respond if she was like "What do you mean?" - "What are you talking about?" - "Yeah right. . " even though she get's it & wants to get down, I know girls will play these dumb mind games, i'm aware & unattached to it, I just want to know how to deal with it.

Much thanks, I appreciate it !

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Use the 3 sec rule.

Try to make decisions inside the 3 sec. It will make your game easier.
I'm also analysing everything. I like chess, strategic games and more. I find it more easier to make decions faster so I wouldn't have time to fuck it up, by thinking about the concequences or (What if I do this? or what if I do that? questions)

Please try it. Goodluck

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Use the 3 sec rule.

Try to make decisions inside the 3 sec. It will make your game easier.
I'm also analysing everything. I like chess, strategic games and more. I find it more easier to make decions faster so I wouldn't have time to fuck it up, by thinking about the concequences or (What if I do this? or what if I do that? questions)

Please try it. Goodluck
I keep that rule in mind but often I find myself regreting it after thinking up something better soon afterwards, or put myself in a situation that could have been handled better or never existed if done correctly beforehand, but that's called a reference experience I guess, still want to avoid it.

Keep posting your thoughts guys I REALLY appreciate it & read every single one !

@Flyswatter - Fuck off then brotha, swat yourself while you're at it. These types of comments are pointless. :roll:

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:42 pm 
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Go get more girls in your rotation, the more girls you have, or the fact that you know you can get more girls...

Will give you this "I don't really give a fuck."

You won't over analyze, you do things your way, and if the girls aren't on board... who cares, you got more girls.


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Follow the one second rule.

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Thanks guys I appreciate the feedback & replies. I tried it, then a minute after thought of something better & was like "Aw, fuck", I guess you only can get better, right? But regarding my second post, how would you guys respond to something like that? I'll be able to see your frame & build off it for future replies etc. .

Thanks dudes.

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BUMP, regarding my last post. . No one has anything? No witty comments or snap backs. . ? :?

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I can post a picture of another meme if you want.

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I can post a picture of another meme if you want.
Hop off my dick, thanks for the bump though.

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