Hey guys,

I always number close girls; I do really well with picking up on a girls energy and vibe and definitely jump on it and it turns out really well...I am definitely an AFC and new into the PUA game but i've been able to anywhere from 1-7 phone numbers on any given weekend....

BUT

I can neverrrrr get a real date, I can never really make the girls WANT to text/call/get to know me (unless they are unattractive).. I'll set up 3 dates and get stood up all 3 times, or get a girl who says "I'll get back to you on that".

Is it something i'm doing??? saying???

My friends call me a Moodle (mash-up of the words man and poodle) cause girls love to hug me and think im sweet and cute...but nothing more...HELP

sweet and cute but where is the edge and the tension? You need to be a sexual beast as well. You are probably coming off too friendly, which is nice but break that shit off once in awhile.

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If a moodle is what you are, then remain a moodle and find girls who like to fuck moodles. In terms of your success rate, I want to believe thag it has more to do with a few miscommunications rather than your wussy personality...

Well, maybe you are going for the date really quick.. Next time, take them on instant dates to get a coffee or whatever.. Also, if coffee is not possible, talk to her for few more minutes before you leave to build more comfort with her! Finally, girls love reasoning!! If you want them to do something for you give them a reason why! It won't matter what the reason is. Instead of saying we should hangout! Say we should hangout because you seem pretty cool and I think it would be a fun time if we meet up for bla bla.. There is this cool place I think you would love bla bla". Hope I delivered my points right here! It's been a long night haha

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I know but i follow the pick-up lines/openers and all that to a T..

I almost wanna say its like a girl is looking at me through beer-goggles, what seemed good tonite isnt good the next day type of rhetoric...It's not the case though cause I dont pick up drunk girls.

I have done some of the instant dating type methods and theyve worked very well...but for some reason I can't anchor home an emotional connection strong enough to get a full-close/relationship/ familiar dating situation

Do you ask for her number during the pickup? Essentially a number, is just a woman's ticket to go on a date with you. Nothing more.

Generally I only number close, if there's not enough time for a kiss close (which doesn't happen often)... My goal in pickup is to get her to say the following words or she must sub-communicate the following message:

"I would love to spend more time with you"

If you got that right, you are almost guaranteed a date with her after getting her number.

NEVER be afraid to kino escalate when you are with women. LEARN to get used to being a "touchy" person. Remember that the goal of pickup is seduction. That's what we essentially do. Whether it's for a Same Night Lay or a long term relationship... We seduce.

One more thing. Once you've made it to a point where you are making out with a woman... Then the doors are open.

Get her used to your touch, don't over compliment, tease her and lastly. Touch.

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Most of the girls I've been with haven't been a result of cold approach pickup. I met them at work, or online, or speed dating, etc. That being said, I've talked to these girls about guys who try to pick them up and they say how they'd never hook up with a guy who they met on the street. Some say they "might" give him their number, but they'd only talk to him and never date him. I guess the perception is that they are "cheap" if they allow a guy on the street to just walk up to them, get their number, a later fuck them.

This real-life account of what girls have told me coincides with what a lot of guys say happens to them, and even my own experiences in cold approach pickup. You number close, all seems normal and great, but you end up with nothing but flakes and no follow up dates.

What you need to realize is that this is not really something you are doing wrong. It's just how women behave when you game them in that manner. That's why a number close itself is nothing. You need to either k-close and f-close, or get an instadate. Or use an effective time-bridging strategy to get them to go out with you a short time later and maintain a close stream of contact with them via phone or text (a la Mystery Method).

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Contradiction.

MMXIII, You are doing something wrong. Otherwise, you'd have dates. A few thoughts:

You seemed a bit aloof so playing a hunch, I labeled you 'wussy' and repeated the "moodle" thing a few times. Now. . . this forum is filled with a bunch of self-centered, angry, sex-starved kids so usually, the typical response would be along the lines of, "F you. You don't know me! I'm alpha! I'm a player! I'll back drop your shit down! You hurt now bitch? How you like that?!" - Not really the type of personality that gains popularity with the ladies as in real life, these kids tend to teeter back and forth from quiet depression to nonsensical stage acts. . . but it's still a reaction.

On the other hand, you read it and just pretended it didn't exist . . . no response at all, just moving on to your topic and the next question. You might think that it's a gentleman-like, logical thing to avoid confrontation, I don't know. But in conversation, we always set a deeper hook for a connection(positive or negative) if we listen carefully and respond thoughtfully to what the person in front of us are saying. Read the responses to your thread and you will see that this is easier said than done: "You have to be this and that. You have to say this and that." And you, "I follow the pick up thing to a T. But I do it like this and that." In all of this . . . what about her?

Do you know how to pick a fight? . . . I mean a real fight. . . You don't go up to a guy and tell him this and that and all the things you're going to do with him. Unless this guy is already looking for a fight, he'll just walk away laughing. Instead, you listen . . . and find out what really pisses him off, and you rub it, rub it, and rub it in, until he's the guy telling you, "I'm going to do this and that and tear you into shreds." - Now you have a fight.

Do you know how to pick up a girl? . . . I mean really go on a date. . . You don't go up to a girl, doing this and that and telling her this and that. Unless this girl is already looking for a date and is desperate, she'll walk away laughing. Instead, you listen. . . and find out what really turns this girl on and gets her excited. Then you rub it, rub it, and rub it in. . . until she's the one telling you, "So come on. I'm serious. You are going to call me, right? OK, make a promise. We're going to _____ on Saturday. We'll drink to it." - Now you have a date.