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 Post subject: Keeping the Frame
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:08 am 
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My issue is that all the women I pick up... I'd do the whole emotional progress well, from Approach right up to Comfort. But I lose it when she shows lots of interest in me. It's like something in my head that goes off that tells me: "She wants to be your girlfriend. PUA off AFC on". I know I'm supposed to drop that frame/mindset, but it's really difficult. It's like I do everything great, get her up to the point that she makes out with me, and then some AFC voice in me tells me that she could be my girlfriend.

Do you guys have any advice on keeping the frame? I know I'm not supposed to be looking for a relationship, but it jumps up and bites me everytime the girl is really into me. It goes something like this and I don't know how many of you can relate:

PUA: Approach, Transition, Neg/Disqualify, Attraction, Qualification, Comfort then PUA turns into AFC looking for relationship. Then she unloads the personal baggage until I bail, or she bails and I go no contact.

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 Post subject: Re: Keeping the Frame
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:23 am 
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That's normal... If you're going to give a girl anything emotionally, make sure it's only a tid bit, not a whole lot. For instance, if you say you like her, and she doesn't say she likes you, then you should already be ejecting for the evening and macking other HBs.

But you shouldn't even be showing your emotions to begin with. Girls run at the first sign of emotion, as I'm sure you're all too familiar with now.

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 Post subject: Re: Keeping the Frame
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:43 am 
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There must be a way, that PUA's drop the relationship thing so far out of context that their only goal is to have fun. I wouldn't tell a girl that I like her, but its like when she confesses to me that she likes me, (not as a friend) THEN I go AFC. It's like I turn into this super nice guy after she opens up to me, kissing me and everything.

If there's a way that I can just maintain the "active disinterest" frame even after making out with her, and not go turn all AFC then it's cool. It's like I want to rush into something serious even when I know I'm just in it for the fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Keeping the Frame
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:40 pm 
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You can't be afraid to lose the girl if you want to win the girl. Most new girls in your life don't want you to get all attached too quickly and start talking about being boyfriend girlfriend. So that shouldn't even be an issue.

If she starts getting emotional too soon or anything you don't like, freeze her out or neg her and make her think you don't really like her that much. Then when she gets all despondent, come back and hug her and be all happy again. This will really fuck with her mind and give her mixed signals that will heighten her attraction for you.

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