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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:43 pm 
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Or at least it seems that way. I get this problem a lot. The girl plays hard to get so I reciprocate but it doesn't seem to end. Specifically SPAM we're arranging a day 2 but she will try to wrap me round her finger, like changing the venue and time hours before, and saying 'see you then!'. Of course I could just go along with it and have a good time but surely that would hurt my chances in the long run? If she thinks she can tell me what to do all the time the attraction will surely dwindle. Realistically I can't keep making room for her on a night only for her to change the time/venue/date or whatever.

I'm right in the middle of this situ now, I reciprocated on her playing hard to get with the time/place tonight (i.e. but X is better/i might be busy then etc.) but she just comes back with another change.

Should I just accept her change and go? Or try to further take control and risk not getting anything, at least for tonight.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:59 pm 
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I'd try to push back a bit, but don't let it screw up your ability to f-close.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:03 pm 
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I'd try to push back a bit, but don't let it screw up your ability to f-close.
Yeah. I think I'll basically just give her two place/time options based on what I want to do and leave it at that. I'll include the usual I'm busy and I don't want to change my schedules for nothing etc.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:10 pm 
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You are on the right track as you need her to comply and jump through your hoops. If you facilitate her and comply to her whims an timetable you are headed for trouble.

I would stay firm and in control at the risk of losing her, as a difficult chicks tends to stay difficult.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:28 pm 
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You are on the right track as you need her to comply and jump through your hoops. If you facilitate her and comply to her whims an timetable you are headed for trouble.

I would stay firm and in control at the risk of losing her, as a difficult chicks tends to stay difficult.
I think you're right. But she blew off both options, said let's do a day next week and then apologized. Kinda wishing I'd taken her invite, pretty sure would've ended well (based on our face to face interactions) tonight at least, and the first F would've sealed the connection.. and I haven't had action in too fucking long! Frankly I'm not quite sure if she just isn't that good with guys or if she isn't that interested or if she is actually playing alpha female or what to be honest.

Either way - my thoughts are to let her send the next message, what do you think? (There's like a 50/50 chance I'll bump into her in the next 6 or 7 days as well - much easier as she sucks at texting).


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My first point is, if she cant change her life to fall in with your plans or at least be flexible then fuck her off until she can. Go out tonight, meet new women and get them on the game, you are putting too much into one girl because you haven't got laid in a while. Seriously who fucking arranges a date on a friday night? Go out and party like a rockstar! (or earn some money)

Secondly she doesn't suck at texting, no one sucks at texting if they have/want to. If she was really that into you then she would reply as soon as she reads your messages. Dont bother textiong her anymore, man up and call her. This will catch her off guard and change the dynamics of things, otherwise from what I can tell your in the danger of falling into the "he was a guy I had a little thing with but it just didn't happen". Its happened to me more times than I would care to remember because I was a little bitch and tried to play too many games. Im no pro at this but I would call that a rookie mistake.

Beast of luck broseph :D

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^ is correct

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Kinda wishing I'd taken her invite, pretty sure would've ended well
I would disagree with you. Clearly her attraction is moot at best, and as such doesn't put you in good odds. Also dont second guess yourself, you need to stick to the gameplan at this point in your game, yes it will cost you random pussy on occasion but if you change frames and gameplans in an effort to facilitate more chances to be in a woman company you will waste a lot more time with uninterested woman and get laid less.

Also like the above poster said, stop excusing this girl in an effort to rationalize the situation, she doesn't suck at text and she doesn't suck with men. She likely just sucks with you because shes just not that interested at this point.


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Thanks guys good, straight advice.

Interestingly the response was indeed much quicker when I took more control, a blowout though it may have been.

You're right that clearly the interest isn't at a high enough level yet. But that can only be developed in person, and we haven't had much time to do that yet (despite when we do there's 90% a k-close). I could throw her off with a call as you say but it could come across as needy. I think an alternative would be to balance things out and show disinterest and more find more women.

At the very least I'll take Einstein's advice that doing the same thing and expecting different results is insanity and take much more control from now on. I show too much interest, simple as. But I find it difficult to balance showing interest with showing disinterest and also when to switch between disinterest and interest and for how long etc.

My game needs re-evaluating in general!


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:41 pm 
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You understanding of the basic game is pretty good, you are just fighting your AFC tendencies, they will always be there but with practice you will stop listening to them as much. Good work there.
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I find it difficult to balance showing interest with showing disinterest
more accurately:

I find it difficult to balance being interested with showing disinterest

This is very hard. However, I'm sure you already have enough game where you aren't trying to trade approval for affection. We all know that wont work.


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