Hey Guy/Gals,

Well I started "game" a year ago and cant say i am great or even good but a year a was a 20 years old loner with no friends let alone a girlfriend,a geek with no social skill.

Now I have alot of friends, problems with girls due to game but above I have a social life. So what’s happen in the last year:

Read the game, and started to dream of being a lady's man (not happened yet)
I looked at myself and my life I in my 3rd year out of 4 at uni with no friend, I was also boring and never picked up the basic social skill growing up. My ok dull life didn’t seem that ok any more.

So I read loads of books and watched lots of DVDs on game. I gather knowledge, so then I needed to use it. I joined clubs dancing, rock climbing, sport teams. I talked to people on my course. I tried new thing and grew my social life from nothing. I never got over AA that much but I got friends and learnt to become someone who people invite to party's and is fun to be around.

MY biggest lesson to success in game or life is that I needed to push myself out of my box and do new things and meet new people. body language, how i talk and what about, how i dress all changed so much but for the better as I am now happy not ok.

BTW if anyone is new to game, one piece of advice I wish someone told is "join clubs, groups even if it is just guys there as it will help build a good social life and skills and overall improve your game "

Now my present problems...
1. A girl on my course likes me alot and I have kissed her I did game her but not knowing just eye contact and touching her arm ect but I just want to be just friends and as she is a core member of a social I hang around with, what is the best way to do this?
2. The girl I like, she is amazing she is smart and sexy but she is housemates with my best mate . I only meet her 4 weeks ago and from day one I teased her about everything I could, had great talk with her and she has shown IOI but I never made a move on her. I don’t think I am in the friend zone yet as when we go to a club and dance its more than friend dancing. But how do I make a move to make sure she likes me as more than friends with low risk?

Many thanks for reading guys
And thanks to styles and gambler your books and DVDs saved me  and Hayley Quinn your lessons and advice was priceless.

You are getting OIO's. Great.

Are you putting your hands on her? Arm around her shoulder, or lower back? Hold her hand?

Just be less fried like and see how she responds.

In other words, just fucking go for it.

That's game.

Cheers

Friends before hoes, otherwise your digging your own grave.

Hey mate,

for the girl you want to put in your own friendzone: do nothing. Be friendly and open towards her. If you feel it gets out of hand, then tell her you dont want more, just be friends. honesty is the best way in the matters of feelings.

As for the other girl: You are making a mistake. You want to make sure of your cause before you make a final move. This will very rarely happen. More often it will be that there are signs coming from her but you will always ask yourself: is this it? is this the signal? At some point, you need to take a risk. that is what seduction and pua is all about. There is no game without risk. the lower the risk, the less effective the technique (in general ).

there is never absolute certainty until you are between her legs. to make sure you become more then a friend, you will need to show in some way (and there are many ways) that you are interested in more. All you need is the balls to do it.

cheers and good luck!

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