Some of my friends have told me to lower my standards and work my way up. I am kind of hesitant to do this, but am wondering if it works?

Meaning: Is it realistic to talk about working your way from hooking up with a girl who is maybe a 5 to a girl who is above a 7?

Are the skills transferable? I feel like attractive girls require a different level of game, as they have interested guys crawling all over them, while a 5 might be a bit "easier" as they don't get quite as much attention.

I don't really want to hook up with 5 if all it leads to is more sub-6's, but if it can give me real skills that I can then use to attract higher ranked girls, then I have more of a reason to do it.

Thoughts?

Why hook up with what you don't like?

Are you a guy? Yea...
Are you stupid??? not if you know how to read these forum posts

Well that's all you need.

Don't hook up with what you don't like.
I wouldn't even start like that EVER...DONT EVEN THINK LIKE THAT.

You know what all guys want? FUN. You wouldn't have sex, and screw girls left and right, or talk to xyz if it wasn't somewhat fun and exciting or whatever else you want to call it.

I'll help you out a bit.
1. Find an introduction.
2. Find something to talk about that related somewhat to that introduction.
3. Then when a girl mentions something that is not in regards to it, it means that is what she wants to talk about next.
4. So talk about it...she starts about school, you talk about which school...what class...she talks about tests and hw, or parties, you talk about something else that related to it...

You know what you need? You need a conversation. If you can have a conversation, than that is all you need, to get started. If you can talk to a girl for 20-30 minutes about absolutely nothing (it seems like that to us)...then good.

You just figured out how to be with a girl for 20-30 minutes.

NOW...take that 20-30 minnutes and figure out how you can add in something sexual to it...something that'll make her think about feelings, read up on states...thought bindings...and kino.

Touch on first encounter, and hug before leaving...dont shake hands how-to-break-a-girl-up-from-her-boyfrie ... highlight=

And you should be okay to have a conv. with anyone.

A conv. is what you need. Forget going with a 5, or 10. Go with what you like. A 5 to me would be a 10 to you. It's all DAM PERCEPTION.

AND THATS RIGHT...girls Pereive you too!

Have fun. Find a game plan, step by step, remember it. and go for it.
good luck...dont settle for less dammit!

Bro I get blown out by uglies more than I do by hotties.

I only game 7-10

Yeah thats how I started. Work on the 5's and just keep them as friends they will end up helping you in your game. Plus alot of them are nice people. After I was confident in gaming them I would move up the latter, I found that it was easier gaming higher girls because they would see that I already had girls around me who were having a good time.

Eventually I was gaming the 9's- 10's. This is kinda when some of the 5's don't like you anymore lol they will think that you think your better than them. After gaming 10's for a while I decided to be nice and talk to 5's only to be rejected lol

Also keep in mind that for 5's you dont have to have a strong game, you have to turn it down and just be a nice friendly person. For 10's you need to teaste play hard to get etc...

Bro dont give up...i thought the same..but the first night i thinked that...PUA girl (7)picked me up...kiss closed her and her best friend...stupid of me...they got in a fight i ended up with nothing wise lesson ...dont be greedy

I agree with what your friends are saying. But is not about working your way up from 5 to 10. Is about gaming every possible so your skills get sharper and your coming from a abundance mentality.

I think uglies have an attitude at the world for being ugly and like to take it out on men: a sort of "get the rejection in first" mentality.

This has happened to me... when down on my luck, I would lower standards and go low on the scale. Honestly, the deal with is... you're not genuinely attracted to the girl and she gets that vibe. Your whole body language and way you present yourself may come off as cheap and sleazy. They can pick up on this easily. Total rejection and it's a major ego deflator if not put into perspective.

However I have done it in the past and can boost your self esteem by getting some (anything really). Once you unleash the beast, it's easier to approach on the higher scale with confidence. Many moons ago, I was going through a serious dry spell. I got a lesser than average chick out one night, went back to her place within an hour and did the deed. Did such a good job she passed out snoring and exit was easy. Feeling high and mighty, the next night I pulled an 8 at some party. Good times.

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Lesser attractive women will often react negatively towards guys they perceive as more attractive than them by blowing them out thinking they're the brunt of the guy's joke. This happens quite often actually, more than being 'mad at the world' for the way they look.

my opinion is, I wouldn't do it. B/c gaming 5's is a different skill set than gaming 9's. The 5 has a different mentality b/c she doesn't get hit on near as much and the guys she does, she doesn't generally like anyway.

One of my friends wanted me to start talking to a heavy chick one night sitting by me at the bar, he was on the left, she was on the right. He said, talk to her, it will be good practice. He wanted me to introduce him. I said, I don't need practice on a 5, for one reason, it may be the type who won't leave me alone. For another reason, she probably would have liked me, but how does that equate to the 9.

In theory, you might be correct, crawl before you walk, walk before you run. But I would compare to chasing hired guns. Hired guns are paid to be nice to you. So they can trick you in to thinking you are doing right, when you aren't.

Agree with winngintym
And as for the hired guns being chased...

I have found them to be easier somehow...
Here's my tale on them... Yes thy get paid to be nice...but heha, half the problem is done with...

No b.shield no combat, easy to start a conv. With... And really easy to get them to do stuff bc thy in a sense get paid to do it..

Yea it does help ur game with intros and such... But anyone gotten hugs and kisses from a girl working at a clothing store? No way in hell for me to not take that opportunity and bag her afterwards.

If u want to start with 5's don't... Go to the store and talk up the hottest girl u see that works there... If u get ioi then GOOD tht means even though u started with hired help that had to be nice to u, u still run out of there with a girl that most likely knows how to dress at the least... I go to Victoria's Secret, this one at the local mall has great saleswomen, thy kno their sizes and everything... Perfect conversation starter...


Try a store.. That way u still have standards to 8,9 or 10's.

Maybe attractive girls dont have that many guys crawling all over them as usually guys are to worried to approach them they may have a few guys i forget the word for them where they stick around but dont get nothing orbiters thats it

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