So I've known about the pick-up industry for about a year now and I've used bits and pieces of information for every day interactions, but I've never gone out with the intentions of sarging... until now. Tonight I'm going out with my cousin and I was just wondering if anyone has any tips or advice for me before I go out.

I'm using the astrology opener, and a couple of others like the 5 oceans opener, but I'm struggling with DHV material. I have the 5 question game but that's about it.

My cousin is all about natural game and he has been going out 2 nights a week for like 6 months with no luck. I want to convince him, as beginners, we need canned material to get things going. What do you guys think?

Im thinking your cousin's "natural game" is him appraoching w/ the usual boring bar room chit chat. Even at my worst, I couldn't imagine nt getting numbers.

time for a change there....

don't look so deep into the canned material, instead model somthing that applies to your life and use the same pattern.

girls are a bi-product of fun, so keep your priorities straight when you go out

don't call it an industry

What do I call it?

your right and your cousin is wrong. Most new guys in here like o say "I use natural game" as an excuse not to use PUA material, and then they just continue to fail, or actually use PUA material and this it is being "Natural" as they internalize it.

I advise that you use canned material, but you may want to come up with some of your own stuff that has truth to it, so of the stuff you mentioned is as old a shit.

direct aka natural game is best problem is most guys here have no idea who they are and do not exude confidence so they have to use techniques and routines to mask their weak sense of self.