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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:00 pm 
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A couple of years ago I read The Game and The Venusian Arts and read PUA forums, but I never internalized the material. Life got in the way and I focused on work instead of women.

I'm looking to get back in the saddle and I'm interested in what are the best materials to read/watch now? I remember the general ideas, but I've forgotten every script. I'm also thinking the structures and techniques might have improved a lot since then.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:35 pm 
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go to rsdnation.com

best pick up community by far, no routines, no gimmicks, and their instructors are legit as fuck with tons of infield videos.


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Find the kind of pick up style you like, and learn from those instructors. There material should be up to date.


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Read 60YOC.

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The Attraction Code
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I don't really know what's good or not because I am mostly "self-taught" or have just learned from normal guys who kill it, but I can certainly tell you what's not good.

My advice it to AVOID:

-Anything that uses an indirect style. The epitome of game is being so confident and having put so much work into yourself (its great that you've been building your career!) that you can be direct and forthcoming with your game. Of course, there are nuances in how to successfully pull that off but if you start from a forthcoming mindset from day one, you will be much better off than if you have the indirect mindset that you have to weasel/earn/sneak your way into a girl's world and that the simple fact that you are sexually attracted to her isn't enough. Embrace your desires and let others know you are proud of them. Mystery, Style, The Game...forget about all that nonsense.

-Anything that focuses too much on "inner game." Look, your emotional state is literally the determining factor in all of this. But to consciously think about it will only make you dwell on it more and that will make it worse and more stressful and more anxiety producing. To use Zen philosophy, your inner game should put you in a state of "mind like water." It should just flow. The only way to do that is to forget about it and let your real world experiences create the mentalities and mindsets and emotional states that make like worthwhile while practicing the self-awareness to know if the actions and real world experiences are putting you in the right direction. You can't think yourself confident. You can't think yourself happy. You can only take actions that result in those things happening naturally. From what I've heard, this means avoiding RSD.

-Anything that overcomplicates the process. Look, every interaction is different and it is hard (if not impossible) and unproductive to try to codify or structurize your interactions in anything but the broadest of terms. Want a structure for how to get good at this? Here:

a) Be awesome. Work on yourself in every single way. Financially, professionally, emotionally, have a good lifestyle, build friendships that are meaningful, dress well, be fit and healthy, pursue hobbies and interests and activities that you love and that bring a smile to your face, strengthen your relationships with your family, be cool and interesting (to everyone, not just some bar girl). All of that is more important than the rest combined.

b) Get into interactions with girls in any way possible. Cold approach night and day, have friends introduce you to girls, take part in activities that you enjoy and speak to the girls there, smile at the cashier. Every girl you talk to is a potential game changer.

c) If the girl is not responsive to you, don't spend more than a minute or two trying to change that. Just go back to b) and talk to a new girl. If the girl is responsive to you, try really, really, really hard to fuck her. Don't think about anything else other than how badly she needs your cock and how good you can give it to her. This goes back to #1 above. Don't be ashamed or timid or shy. Make genuine, earnest moves to get her alone and horny. And no, interesting conversations and funny stories are not earnest attempts to bone her. They are sometimes a necessary evil/time-filler, but for the most part, just focus on moving things forward.

d) If the girl is not responsive to your attempts to move forward, go back to b) and find a new girl. If she is, well, to put it bluntly, fuck her until her view of the world has changed forever. Spank her, choke her, smack her, pound her as hard as you can. Then, see her again if you want to or if you don't, go back to b) and find a new girl. Repeat until you have the life you want.

My advice is to just get out there and try stuff out and then keep a daily journal so that you can make observations and refinements as you notice trends. That's what I did and it has helped my game tremendously. Then, you can read materials on things that you really need clarification on. I find reading field reports and lay reports to be the best learning method this community has, by an order of magnitude.


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I don't really know what's good or not because I am mostly "self-taught" or have just learned from normal guys who kill it, but I can certainly tell you what's not good.

My advice it to AVOID:

-Anything that uses an indirect style. The epitome of game is being so confident and having put so much work into yourself (its great that you've been building your career!) that you can be direct and forthcoming with your game. Of course, there are nuances in how to successfully pull that off but if you start from a forthcoming mindset from day one, you will be much better off than if you have the indirect mindset that you have to weasel/earn/sneak your way into a girl's world and that the simple fact that you are sexually attracted to her isn't enough. Embrace your desires and let others know you are proud of them. Mystery, Style, The Game...forget about all that nonsense.

-Anything that focuses too much on "inner game." Look, your emotional state is literally the determining factor in all of this. But to consciously think about it will only make you dwell on it more and that will make it worse and more stressful and more anxiety producing. To use Zen philosophy, your inner game should put you in a state of "mind like water." It should just flow. The only way to do that is to forget about it and let your real world experiences create the mentalities and mindsets and emotional states that make like worthwhile while practicing the self-awareness to know if the actions and real world experiences are putting you in the right direction. You can't think yourself confident. You can't think yourself happy. You can only take actions that result in those things happening naturally. From what I've heard, this means avoiding RSD.

-Anything that overcomplicates the process. Look, every interaction is different and it is hard (if not impossible) and unproductive to try to codify or structurize your interactions in anything but the broadest of terms. Want a structure for how to get good at this? Here:

a) Be awesome. Work on yourself in every single way. Financially, professionally, emotionally, have a good lifestyle, build friendships that are meaningful, dress well, be fit and healthy, pursue hobbies and interests and activities that you love and that bring a smile to your face, strengthen your relationships with your family, be cool and interesting (to everyone, not just some bar girl). All of that is more important than the rest combined.

b) Get into interactions with girls in any way possible. Cold approach night and day, have friends introduce you to girls, take part in activities that you enjoy and speak to the girls there, smile at the cashier. Every girl you talk to is a potential game changer.

c) If the girl is not responsive to you, don't spend more than a minute or two trying to change that. Just go back to b) and talk to a new girl. If the girl is responsive to you, try really, really, really hard to fuck her. Don't think about anything else other than how badly she needs your cock and how good you can give it to her. This goes back to #1 above. Don't be ashamed or timid or shy. Make genuine, earnest moves to get her alone and horny. And no, interesting conversations and funny stories are not earnest attempts to bone her. They are sometimes a necessary evil/time-filler, but for the most part, just focus on moving things forward.

d) If the girl is not responsive to your attempts to move forward, go back to b) and find a new girl. If she is, well, to put it bluntly, fuck her until her view of the world has changed forever. Spank her, choke her, smack her, pound her as hard as you can. Then, see her again if you want to or if you don't, go back to b) and find a new girl. Repeat until you have the life you want.

My advice is to just get out there and try stuff out and then keep a daily journal so that you can make observations and refinements as you notice trends. That's what I did and it has helped my game tremendously. Then, you can read materials on things that you really need clarification on. I find reading field reports and lay reports to be the best learning method this community has, by an order of magnitude.
A lot of solid advice here! It has been said before, and it will be said again a few hundered times. CONFIDENCE is 90%+ of game...

Once you get the girl, caveman fuck her!


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I don't really know what's good or not because I am mostly "self-taught" or have just learned from normal guys who kill it, but I can certainly tell you what's not good.

My advice it to AVOID:

-Anything that uses an indirect style. The epitome of game is being so confident and having put so much work into yourself (its great that you've been building your career!) that you can be direct and forthcoming with your game. Of course, there are nuances in how to successfully pull that off but if you start from a forthcoming mindset from day one, you will be much better off than if you have the indirect mindset that you have to weasel/earn/sneak your way into a girl's world and that the simple fact that you are sexually attracted to her isn't enough. Embrace your desires and let others know you are proud of them. Mystery, Style, The Game...forget about all that nonsense.

-Anything that focuses too much on "inner game." Look, your emotional state is literally the determining factor in all of this. But to consciously think about it will only make you dwell on it more and that will make it worse and more stressful and more anxiety producing. To use Zen philosophy, your inner game should put you in a state of "mind like water." It should just flow. The only way to do that is to forget about it and let your real world experiences create the mentalities and mindsets and emotional states that make like worthwhile while practicing the self-awareness to know if the actions and real world experiences are putting you in the right direction. You can't think yourself confident. You can't think yourself happy. You can only take actions that result in those things happening naturally. From what I've heard, this means avoiding RSD.

-Anything that overcomplicates the process. Look, every interaction is different and it is hard (if not impossible) and unproductive to try to codify or structurize your interactions in anything but the broadest of terms. Want a structure for how to get good at this? Here:

a) Be awesome. Work on yourself in every single way. Financially, professionally, emotionally, have a good lifestyle, build friendships that are meaningful, dress well, be fit and healthy, pursue hobbies and interests and activities that you love and that bring a smile to your face, strengthen your relationships with your family, be cool and interesting (to everyone, not just some bar girl). All of that is more important than the rest combined.

b) Get into interactions with girls in any way possible. Cold approach night and day, have friends introduce you to girls, take part in activities that you enjoy and speak to the girls there, smile at the cashier. Every girl you talk to is a potential game changer.

c) If the girl is not responsive to you, don't spend more than a minute or two trying to change that. Just go back to b) and talk to a new girl. If the girl is responsive to you, try really, really, really hard to fuck her. Don't think about anything else other than how badly she needs your cock and how good you can give it to her. This goes back to #1 above. Don't be ashamed or timid or shy. Make genuine, earnest moves to get her alone and horny. And no, interesting conversations and funny stories are not earnest attempts to bone her. They are sometimes a necessary evil/time-filler, but for the most part, just focus on moving things forward.

d) If the girl is not responsive to your attempts to move forward, go back to b) and find a new girl. If she is, well, to put it bluntly, fuck her until her view of the world has changed forever. Spank her, choke her, smack her, pound her as hard as you can. Then, see her again if you want to or if you don't, go back to b) and find a new girl. Repeat until you have the life you want.

My advice is to just get out there and try stuff out and then keep a daily journal so that you can make observations and refinements as you notice trends. That's what I did and it has helped my game tremendously. Then, you can read materials on things that you really need clarification on. I find reading field reports and lay reports to be the best learning method this community has, by an order of magnitude.
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I know this is said as a joke, but dude, you are 150% correct... its one of the most important aspects of all of this. I sometimes cannot believe how little sexual prowess is discussed in the pickup world. I have a couple of natural friends that destroy it on a level that you have to see to believe. And they rarely talk about how they approach or what they do to "build attraction" or anything like that. Whenever you get them to talk about "game" they end up focusing on rocking the girl's world. Giving her something she's never experienced.

Personally, I know I am great in bed. I get compliments on it close to 100% of the time I nail a new chick. But it wasn't always that way. I probably put away close to a couple dozen girls before my confidence was set, my willingness to do and say almost anything in bed came about, my full-on dominance and authority took shape, and my prowess became consistent on every girl.

I can't even get into why this is so important on so many levels.

Obviously, its huge in keeping girls around.

But even before the bang, it has some intangible effect on your game. Like I said, I wasn't always there so I know this for a fact. These days, I can lock eyes with a girl and somehow I can sense that in that fleeting moment, she knows that I would absolutely change her life. There's a certain confidence that comes with full faith in your abilities. I mentioned this the other day in my daily thread, but for me, I sometimes don't do well approaching in "spur of the moment" settings, like a passing girl on the sidewalk because I don't get the opportunity to mentally fuck the girl. But give me a stationary girl and let my mind wander to all the ways I would fuck her and dominate her and give her something to remember and I'm walking up with the coolest, most confident approach you've ever seen.

Very few guys are good in bed. And very few guys are able to quickly seduce random girls. And a combination of those two, being able to sweep a girl off her feet, get her to give herself over to your lead, and then absolutely altering her reality is the key to the kingdom. This is more important than many people give it credit for.


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