Although I am happy to go down my local or almost any venue solo, trying to PU solo still worries me. Do many of you actually do it? Who do you laugh with when you get fobbed off?

All my friends are becoming more and more rAFC and its starting to piss me off, they all act interested in PU but don't put in any effort. My only option is to solo now but its so daunting. Any advice or help? Much appreciated

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Dude honestly going to pick up by yourself takes balls! props on that!
though i hardly go out by myself, i could say that i sarge alone because like you my friends only show interest but don't really work at it. They subsconciously make me feel aproach anxiety and talk to me about their limiting beliefs and it fucks my game..
so at the clubs first thing i do besides portraying alpha male qualities is to talk whoever gives me eye contact whether girls or guys. then usually when i approach a 2 set i just grab a random guy and tell him to wing me for a few minutes, usually other guys are down to do it and when they see you do it they try to demonstrate that they also can. whether they have game or not. they go for the crash and burn because they no longer feel alone..
at the end not only you can accomplish a #/*/f close depending on the girl andyour game
but you also make friends that can introduce you to girls and expand your social circle.

i also feel scared.. but hey what could possibly happen to you?
nothing that can kill you (unless you try to steal chicks from drug lords, which you might never see at clubs)
other than that you just gonna get beautiful chicks chasing you!!

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Yeah, lately I am really starting to resent the people I know. They just all seem low value maybe im a dick lol Your right about other people fucking your game, they all create so much pressure because I am the one trying to prop them up if that makes sense :S

You don't happen to be based in London do you? I could do with finding some new wings!

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yeah same here i feel like im being a dick, but you know you got to do what you have to do.
and no. i could bet the chicks over there are extremelly gorgeous. i personally love blondes!
but here in California the best chicks are asians and latinas!

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Bro! You have realized something important. It matters why and how you know people.

There are friends and there are wings. A wing is also a friend but it is a friend you met through the game. With a regular friend, you focus on friend stuff and the game comes in if you have time left. With a wing, you eat sleep and live the game and do other stuff if you have time for it.

Now, ask yourself, what are you afraid of? Making a fool out of yourself? Well, thats worse when people you know are watching. Who would you rather have thinking that you are an idiot? People you know who will talk about it and remember it forever or some random guys who has never seen you and wont ever see you again and forget about it as soon as they start talking about something else?

Going out alone is great, people wont hold you back and you can be whoever you wanna be.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

I personally hate working with other people. Well guys anyway. Even if someone has tight game I just don't want them in my way. I don't care how big a set is I'll go in alone. If you act friendly rather than needy or like you're there to pick up you will barely ever get rejected providing your conversation skills are decent. My usual plan is to enter the venue, buy a drink and then find a table around the edges full of hot women. I'll then tell them I have a bad back or some other crap and ask if they mind me sitting there. I'll then get into a conversation with their group and other women see this. It then gives me social proof as a guy leading a conversation on a table full of hot girls. I don't act sleazy or hit on there. I'll then find myself a girl easily from elsewhere due in the club due to my new friends being hot and me being the only guy on their table. Therefore I become high value and women see this.

When I'm with my friends things often end up like a car crash. There's two guys I usually hang out with and if we end up out at night I have to watch them crash and burn. One is my best friend. I taught him PUA and he actually has really tight game. His problem however is that he's overweight and naturally unattractive. This means he doesn't get in my way if there's a 9 or 10. He also negs too hard. My second friend is a good looking guy who has never even heard of PUA. He has zero game but balls of steel. He does however beg women.

When I'm out with those two in bars it can actually be pretty awesome. I do zero work and don't need to approach ever. Because they both have giant balls they will approach and bring girls over. I don't try and steal them from my friends but as soon as they make a mistake the girls will then gravitate towards me. I can then game them and close them. An example of this is a couple of weeks ago they did a street approach on two French girls who were with their gay best friend. I wasn't in the mood and they were 7s rather than my usual so I didn't bother with them. My friends eventually moved them to a venue where we have massive social proof due to knowing the owners and getting everything for free plus the best table.

I talked about nothing to the gay best friend while my friends paired off with the girls. By doing this I was basically taking control of the cock-block. Within ten minutes friend number one had made a mistake. He called his girl a slut. She then comes over to me and asks if I think she's a slut. I run my standard routine for this by telling her all girls are sluts but only when they meet a girl they're comfortable enough with to behave like one. I do this while kinoing and smiling into her eyes. Even do the heart-touching crap. She agrees and starts telling me about her sex life and what turns her on as I've made her so comfortable while my friend did the opposite. I have her closed. My other friend who has no game then runs out of things to ask his girl and starts talking about trains. She then comes over and sits on my knee while I'm playing with her friend. The gay best friend who'd cock-blocked my friends earlier doesn't mind because I become his mate the start of the night. I rejected the second girl who came over due to having a connection with the first and not wanting to risk losing both by doing for a threesome. Amazingly my friend who discussed trains managed to tap it. Probably becomes she just wanted some.

Point I'm trying to make is that AFCs can be useful to you if they have the balls to approach and can at least bring girls to your table. If they can't DHV, escalate or close then it's to your benefit if the girls they're bringing are hot.

I still like hunting alone best though. Alone it's easy to join any other group while even if there are two of you it's much tougher especially if the other guy you're with has no idea about tactics or game. For me social status/proof is all I want on a night out because I only want 9s or 10s unless others are just given to me and there aren't better girls out. To get girls that hot in clubs and bars the best way is them seeing you with other hot women, especially if you look like you're leading the hot women. To do that you either need to invite a group of hot women out with you or create your own group from numbers you have unless you can open and stay which is the easiest way by far!

Just be ballsy and don't be scared to open! Confidence is the most important factor by far!

OK, thanks for all the great advice guys. Looks like I am going solo sooner than I thought I could!

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A quick update:

I went out tonight solo with the intention of PU for the first time and it ended terribly!

I got myself fixed up as usual, listened to so some pumping music and I was ready, I was "zoned". I waltzed into town raring to socialize and make some HB's melt and get some. The problem was the town had other ideas, it was dead. I've seen more life in a morgue! The best I could find were three black guys in one bar and that certainly isn't to my taste... Whilst walking about town I did manage to open a 4 set with "hey guys, is there anywhere lively here tonight?" to which I got some feedback and interest but on closer inspection the best out of the girls was a 5. I rolled off and walked away with a thanks.

Of course I realize this was all due to circumstance but damn! Not a thing, even the barmaids were none existent! How do these places survive with nights like this and men working behind their taps? WTF!?

Despite all this I am really happy I went out, although it could have been ALOT better I have now taken the first step and every journey starts with one step and guess what NOTHING BAD HAPPENED TO ME!. I was a lot less dubious than I thought I was going to be and I feel this could be the start of something exciting .

I thought I would let you guys know how it went and maybe this will inspire anyone who is in the same position as me.Once again thanks for the adice chaps, happy hunting.

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