Ok i have been interested in the whole seduction game for a month or so but i have to say that for the normal guy that does not spend lots of money but reads the books can you seriously end up attracting these 9/10's that the professional PUA's get.

Would love to hear your guys experiences and how using Game has changed your life for the better ?

Of course it works.

Game has allowed me to pull stunning girls, and improved my individuality.

Don't look at the Game as a way to pull in all the girls. Look at it as a way to improve yourself. Improve the way you dress, the way you talk, the way you walk, your attitude, the way you communicate with people, the way you look at things. When you have this and you understand that you have this, you will have enough confidence for you to eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and some dessert.

Then you will pull all the girls you want without any openers, techniques, negs, mid-game bullshit, etc.

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Ok, Ill give you my feedback on this.

Im 30, wich is kinda old compared to most of you guys, Ive been married 5 years, I love my wife, she not only have great personnality, she's also smoking hot and gets hit on all the time by co-workers and stuff (now a month ago, some dude was fixing the light in her office and ask for her number). So Ive got basically the perfect life : great wife, good job, good payroll, everything.

As a side note, Ill take judging from anyone, as long as you've been with the same woman for 10 years, never cheating on her whatsoever.

Anyway, I had never heard of PUA 10 days ago but I did have some experience (I studied psychology and have been managing a groupe of salesmen for a few years, and when you know how to hit on a customer to sell him stuff, the transition isnt that big to hitting on girls and selling yourself). So, last week (I believe that was tuesday) I came across "THE GAME" by Neil Strauss. I started reading that and was about 50 pages deep come wendesday night (I dont read slowly but Im doing 2 jobs so its not like I have much time for hobby or anything during the week).

So on wendesday nights I work at a local restaurant (Ive been doing that for a long time, so Im actually running the place and telling people what do do and how to do it more than working myself) and I come across a new waitress : I'll found later that she's 20 and Id rate her between 8 and 8.5 (great smile, deep brown eyes, long black hair, about 180cm, great ass but small boobies). Its not like I fall in love or even get really attracted but I decide to game her, just for the fun of it and see if the technique Ive read really work.

So, the fact that Im in a dominant position must have helped but I get to know her, neg her some, just enough and learn she has a boyfriend. I get a devalorizing routine on him (at that point I dont know what that is, Im only on page 50 remember). Give her some kino, I get tons of IOI's and at the end of the nigh kiss close (Ive been in that situation a few time in the last years but never been all the way because of the cheating, feel bad thing. That time is somewhat different, because its more like experimenting so somehow I feel ok).

So YES, that stuff is actally pretty solid and works.


Now, while Im typing I can aswell give you the update on the HB.

I've been seeing her 2 or 3 times during last week, always during daytime when I can get away from my office for lunch. We chitchat, some kissing, grab a drink and then I head back to work (my goal was to reach 7 hours so that when I escalate things I've maximized my chances to have sex). So, tonight is wendesday and Im working with her again, shes kinda afraid that her boyfriend might learn shes cheating on him (btw, that guy is total douchebag, he comes see her at work like 4 times during the evening and is like a puppy, getting him out of the way didnt requires that much skills now that I think back).
She's nervous people will know but Im acting cool, doing the cocky and funny theme and actually playing slow game on the other waitresses and a few female customers (she actually realize that and I can see she's not too happy).

During the night I get her alone in the bathroom for 1 min and she's all over me, I feel like she's gonna be the one raping me. We cant stay there for too long cause people might be noticing so we walk out.

At the end of the night, I get people out of the restaurant (cooks, waiters, customers, everyone) and ask her to go close the backdoor, wich she does right away while I turn down the lights : Now IMO, she's clearly saying: yes Ok, let's have sex, right ?

So we cuddle, start kissing, she's all over me once again, for the sake of science I decide to run kino escalating Vincent Di Carlo stuff, even though if feels like I dont even need that. 5 mins in, my shirt is on the ground, her shirt and bra or laying on the bar and she's rubbing herself on my dick with still our pants on. Im rubbing her pussy by behind and start getting her shoes off. At that point, she's like : Jaeron, you know I'd like to wait before we have sex.
Im like: WTF, you've been riding me like a nymphomaniac and now you want out ?? (she actually making some excuse about not having her keys and having to call her boyfriend to get back to her place). So I'm like : OK and start back from step one, kissing, licking, slowly going down and she start moaning again. Within 2 mins she's on me and grab my dick through my pants, Im like "ok, here we go, about time", I start to finger her through her panties (she still has her skirt on) and then start taking her shoes off.

Then she stops and goes : "I really wanna wait and need to get back to my BF before he gets worried", she stands up, put on her shirt and kiss me goodbye. We kiss for 20 secs and she's off.

So now, Im back at my place and Im wondering what did I do wrong there ? Kino was good, I followed the Di Carlo method step by step (thats actually pretty much what I was doing before learning of it) I mean, does she understand that Im not that into her and that I just want to bone her ? Is the bf exuse really not an excuse ?
Right now Im more enclined to think she's playing hard to get on me but Ill take any advice.

I'll probably end up fucking her later this week but more importantly, I want to improve my game, so people, Ill hear you out on that

Solid post, well it's great to see that this stuff actually works, i suppose i just find it a little hard to get my head around i suppose as you are fed crap about girls and then when you find out about game you find out all the stuff you knew before hand is just crap, so it's kinda hard to get your head over

@ OP this stuff really does work.

I really like psychology and learning to use it on women is great. I learned in my life women are over-grown children. They want to save-keep every thing and especially "some cute message on the answering machine" When you use these things on women it really works. I am no longer scared to scout out for women in the store and say things like I think your cute, and try for their number.


I used to be that boring nice guy "mangina" now I don't do that stuff. I am able to talk with women more confident now, and I see the value I have as a man. A provider which can provide for a family/household 200-300k house someday after school. Men hold so much value but don't see it. Don't sell yourself out to the first thing that moves. If you read "The Game" by Neil Strauss's, I was kind of like him.

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